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Man who accidentally killed his son had alcohol, pot in his system (MN)
KSTP.com ^ | 5/5/08 | Nicole Muehlhausen

Posted on 05/05/2008 5:19:28 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

The Belle Plaine man who fatally shot his 8-year-old son while turkey hunting last month had alcohol and marijuana in his system at the time of the incident, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday in Sibley County.

Anthony Klaseus mistook his son, Hunter, for a wild turkey last month and shot him in the chest with a 12-gauge shotgun, according to police.

When officials arrived at the scene, they smelled alcohol and asked Klaseus if he had been drinking.

Klaseus stated he had consumed one beer several hours earlier in the day and agreed to take a preliminary breath test. Klaseus tested with a BAC of .060.

Investigators searched Klaseus vehicle and found several 12-packs of beer and several empty bottles and cans. They also found a marijuana pipe, which had freshly burnt marijuana residue inside.

After urine tests, Klaseus was found with an ethyl alcohol concentration of .05 grams. The sample was collected three hours after the time of the shooting. Tests regarding the exact amount of marijuana in Klaseus' system will be released in the next few weeks.

Klaseus is charged with second-degree manslaughter, reckless discharge of a firearm, trespassing, and hunting without a license.

If convicted, Klaseus faces over 15 years in prison, a $32,000 fine, or both.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: hunter; mn; turkey; turkeyhunt
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To: packrat35

Interesting about the mj factor in this case. AFAIK, there is no test for determining intoxication by marijuana. The urine test actually tests for metabolites that indicate the body recently “digested” THC. Furthermore, the metabolites for THC can be present in the body for up to 30 days past the time the user ingests the drug. As much as I would like to see this guy appropriately punished for killing his kid, I don’t see how they can take stock in the up coming report that details the “amount of marijuana” in his system.
That being said, the police/prosecutors have plenty to tell the jury just by saying they found a pipe with burnt mj residue at the crime scene, found evidence in the defendent’s urine indicating he recently smoked marijuana, found evidence that he was drinking, and was in fact intoxicated (a .06 three hours after the fact means he had more than “one”) from alcohol. Probably enough there for the jury to see the light without having to make false claims about the levels of mj intoxication at the time of the crime.


21 posted on 05/05/2008 5:58:15 PM PDT by citizenK
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I agree, if it had happened to me,
the authorities would have found two bodies in the woods.


22 posted on 05/05/2008 5:58:40 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Sad that he named his child “Hunter” and then killed him.


23 posted on 05/05/2008 6:05:03 PM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: citizenK

Would you hunt with this guy?


24 posted on 05/05/2008 6:06:15 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: adopt4Christ

Just sad. Period....


25 posted on 05/05/2008 6:07:54 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

How about we establish a firm legal principle, whether by case law or statute, that anyone who wilfully becomes intoxicated using any psychactive substance is responsible for any actions committed while wilfully intoxicated to the same degree that he or she would be if the actions were carried out with premediation. Then, we legalize drugs.


26 posted on 05/05/2008 6:11:37 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: packrat35

There’s a certain type of “hunter” that “hunts” by shooting at any sign of motion. Turkeys move, little boys move, cows move, horses move. These “hunters” have shot them all.


27 posted on 05/05/2008 6:21:31 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Man who "accidentally" killed his son had alcohol, pot in his system

Ok what's wrong with this headline?

This idiot smokes dope, drinks beer, trespasses and illegally hunts and some twit thinks this was an "accident"?? While this might meet the dictionary definition of "accident" i.e. occurring unintentionally, I would re-write this headline to read:

Man who NEGLIGENTLY killed his son...

28 posted on 05/05/2008 6:35:26 PM PDT by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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To: GovernmentShrinker
There are also certain types of hunting where that kind of shooting style is more prevalent, especially rabbit and turkey hunting. It happens too with upland bird, (ala Dick Cheney), but usually upland bird hunters are shooting up in the air so an errant shot at motion isn't as dangerous. With rabbits hunters are often making very fast shots at ground level targets and often not enough attention is paid to what lies beyond.

I haven't personally hunted turkeys, but I've been told that turkey hunters often mistake other objects for partial views of turkeys and I have read that accidents are more common while hunting turkey than in most other types of hunting.

29 posted on 05/05/2008 6:41:12 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: elmer fudd

Turkey hunting is more of a sit and wait thing. Hide in a blind. Decoys. Lots of calling.

Not a stalking type of hunt.

Much like deer hunting from a tree stand.


30 posted on 05/05/2008 6:51:46 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I spent a large part of this evening catching glimpses my 8 year old son playing in our side yard while I worked outside. It made my heart swell watching him just enjoy being a boy.

This story puts a feeling in the pit of my stomach that I can't very well describe. The only good thing that I can think of right now is that this boy is with Jesus.

31 posted on 05/05/2008 6:55:18 PM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Ghengis

Give your son a big hug for us.


32 posted on 05/05/2008 6:58:20 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I've been on hunting trips with customers and from time to time, run into the "little nip before hitting the pheasants in the field," suggestion. I will not hunt with anyone who has consumed alcohol and I don't care if its just clay birds. NFW ! Guns are too dangerous.
There's plenty of time for pops when the shotguns are put away.
33 posted on 05/05/2008 7:02:24 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: elmer fudd
That's why I don't hunt turkeys.

Riskiest form of hunting. Everything is camouflage. People sitting or laying at ground level. Too many morons.

(Deer hunting can be risky even though your wearing tons of blaze orange.)

34 posted on 05/05/2008 7:07:50 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Hunters and gun owners in general get a bad rap, as it is.

Bad behavior only serves to fan the flames.

I’ll hunt with you....any time.


35 posted on 05/05/2008 7:14:18 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Properly raised 8 year olds will sit still for hours while hunting if necessary - and enjoy the hunt. It is all a matter of learning to think outside yourself - of something other than yourself. In other words, not being a whiny, snot nosed, brat.

On the other hand I have gone hunting with many adult men who have never grown up. Those are short trips.

36 posted on 05/05/2008 7:15:00 PM PDT by Uhaul
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Harry Whittington moves...


37 posted on 05/05/2008 7:19:28 PM PDT by robrose68
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To: The_Reader_David

“Then, we legalize drugs.”

Let’s not. It doesn’t work. How about we just make the penalties for crime so severe the crime rate plummets? I have been in some of those countries. It works and works well.


38 posted on 05/05/2008 7:19:46 PM PDT by Uhaul
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To: Uhaul

I really don’t know how to react to your post.

I’m going to stick with my opinion that this eight year old boy should be alive today.

I don’t blame him. He was only eight.


39 posted on 05/05/2008 7:26:07 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Uhaul

Then let’s make alcohol illegal. That can work too.


40 posted on 05/05/2008 7:28:26 PM PDT by Wolfie
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