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Calgary woman becoming priest
Calgary Herald ^ | May 4, 2008 | Graeme Morton

Posted on 05/04/2008 1:47:36 PM PDT by NYer

On May 29, Monica Kilburn Smith of Calgary will be welcomed into the small worldwide community of female Roman Catholic priests.

Her ordination ceremony will take place in a United Church in Victoria and, of course, will not be recognized by the global Roman Catholic Church. However, Kilburn Smith and local supporters of major reform within the world's largest Christian church say it will be one more small step in a campaign to bring up questions, start discussion, open eyes and, eventually, win hearts.

"Many Catholics, both women and men, have been working for change within the church for centuries," says Kilburn Smith, a chaplain with the Calgary Health Region.

"But the Roman Catholic Womenpriests movement is doing something tangible about it. It seems prophetic and courageous, something I feel called to be a part of."

The first ordinations of Catholic women as priests were held in 2002 in Europe. More than 50 women, including two other Canadians, have taken the bold step since then.

Kilburn Smith says she's eager to play a pastoral role for what she believes is a growing community of people who feel disconnected from the current church, but who remain Catholic at heart.

Local members of a group called Friends of Vatican II, who are working for reform within the Catholic church, say they don't hide their opinions when talking to other Catholics, but they don't actively try to proselytize.

"It comes up in conversations after church and in other settings," says Shelagh Mikulak.

"I think there are a lot of Catholics who wouldn't have a problem with female priests, but they don't feel comfortable to come out in the open with their support."

Those actively seeking reform have been holding silent vigils across the street from St. Mary's, the Calgary Catholic diocese cathedral, for the past few years during holy week.

Some women who have been ordained as priests have been excommunicated from the Catholic fold. Reform supporters say they're not looking to pick a fight with the Vatican, but they steadfastly maintain their position is an elemental matter of conscience and justice deeply rooted in their faith.

"It's not about being contentious, but we believe there's a need for reform within the church to welcome both women and married male priests," says Fred Williams.

"Clearly the law is unjust. These people want to follow their conscience and their spiritual calling and to deny that is wrong."

Kilburn Smith says she and other Roman Catholic women priests value the sacramental tradition of their church, but are practising a non-clerical, non-hierarchical form of ordained ministry.

"It's leadership modelled on Jesus' example of inclusivity and non-judgmental love," she says.

Kilburn Smith says her concept of a priest's role is, among other things, one who is "the holder of the sacred space" and who, like many, feels moved to use his or her God-given gifts in compassionate ministry.

"Jesus says the Kingdom of God is within you, and that statement doesn't just apply to men. We are each called to minister in our own way. I believe being a priest is my way."

Kilburn Smith says the historic Catholic rejection of

a female priesthood is akin to "gender apartheid" and amounts to a tragic waste of human potential at a time when many Catholic parishes worldwide are without priests.

Supporter Angelina Waldon draws a comparison to the American civil rights movement and its early pioneers who faced entrenched attitudes with courage.

"It's like Rosa Parks; someone, somewhere has to be the first to stand up for what is right," says Waldon.

Kilburn Smith says she and other Catholic women who aspire to the priesthood are often asked why they don't simply move to another Christian denomination, such as Anglican, United or Presbyterian, where female clergy are welcomed.

"I'm Catholic in my bones," she says. "If you want to bring about change, you have to stay within, not walk away and give up. If we didn't care about the church and its future, we wouldn't be doing this."

Supporter Catherine Williams adds, "We the people are the church, not the buildings or the hierarchy."

Will supporters of a female Catholic priesthood see their vision embraced by the church in their lifetime?

"I have to believe it will happen," says Mikulak. "Gender equality is now established in so many other segments of society. But it took courageous women, and courageous men who supported them, to make it happen."

As the spring sun warms the earth and thoughts turn to the leafy renewal of spring, Kilburn Smith is convinced a more inclusive Catholic Church will bloom in the years ahead.

"This is a transition time in the Catholic world. We've been a long time in that moist soil," Kilburn Smith says of those advocating for renewal.

"But now we are starting to sprout up. There is nothing that lives that does not change."


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To: fanfan

It really works if you have confidence in God and His Word.

A Christian will regard the arrogant desire to “improve” as sinful and needing to be resisted. Not institutionalized, canonized, and imposed.


81 posted on 05/05/2008 11:20:28 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: fanfan

It is wonderful that you are truly seeking viewpoints and rationales so as to be well-informed.

Most often those who criticize this particular doctrine are totally closed-minded and I regret that I place you in that category.

I hope my words gave some insight into the doctrine and how one can think about it - and that you can see past any words that may seem harsh or impatient.


82 posted on 05/05/2008 11:21:31 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: fanfan

...I regret that I placeD you in that category.

(The D is important.)


83 posted on 05/05/2008 11:23:35 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: fanfan

I think his first line is a wonderful loving prayer for their eternal destiny!!!

Don and his family simply won’t risk being around such dangerous people, despite his ardent love for them and desire for their eternal salvation.


84 posted on 05/05/2008 11:31:54 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: fanfan
Also, some of the bible writings were thrown out after one of the Ecumenical Councils. (I apologize for not having the details)

This is a standard New Age accusation. It's bogus. You don't have the details because there are no "details" to have.

What did those writings say? Did they challenge the Men in charge?

One of the alleged "books thrown out of the Bible," the (Gnostic) Gospel of Thomas, quotes Jesus saying that women can be saved ... if they become men.

Suddenly doesn't sound so enlightened, does it?

85 posted on 05/05/2008 11:47:20 AM PDT by Campion
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To: fanfan; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I cannot accept such heresy. Yes, I’ll probably pray for them, but I will not condone or tolerate this kind of “thumbing the nose” at long established doctrine.

There’s a poster here whose nick exactly mimics my thoughts on this subject. The nick is: Tolerance Sucks Rocks.

I have an open mind, but it’s not so open my brains have fallen out.


86 posted on 05/05/2008 12:43:40 PM PDT by Don W (To write with a broken pencil is pointless.)
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To: Don W
I cannot accept such heresy.

Would you crucify me?

Let he without sin cast the first stone.

87 posted on 05/05/2008 1:10:35 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: FRiends

This beautiful evening is a gift, and I am going out, to enjoy it with my family.

Have a good night, everyone.


88 posted on 05/05/2008 1:12:41 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan
...and am not trying to cause a problem.

Then you procede to subsitute Mohammed for Christ? Sure, honey.

89 posted on 05/05/2008 1:21:55 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (There was once consensus that the world was flat.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair
Then you procede to subsitute Mohammed for Christ? Sure, honey.

No, I didn't compare Jesus to Mohammed.

I was pointing out the irony of what I was reading.

Honey?

90 posted on 05/05/2008 2:27:08 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Notwithstanding
(The D is important.)

I don't get it.

91 posted on 05/05/2008 2:33:45 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Notwithstanding
Don and his family simply won’t risk being around such dangerous people, despite his ardent love for them and desire for their eternal salvation.

But if GOD has prepared a place for us, we have nothing to fear.

92 posted on 05/05/2008 2:35:33 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: NYer

She is an anti-Catholic priestess.


93 posted on 05/05/2008 4:01:12 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Notwithstanding
It is wonderful that you are truly seeking viewpoints and rationales so as to be well-informed.

I yearn to understand, and I appreciate your help.

:-)

94 posted on 05/05/2008 4:22:46 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan

Sure, Honey.


95 posted on 05/05/2008 4:26:27 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (There was once consensus that the world was flat.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair
Sure, Honey.
LOL.
Heh,....
Do you feel better now?

Not very “Christian” of you, if you ask me.
But what do I know?

96 posted on 05/05/2008 4:35:04 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Don W
Well, since you pinged me...

While admitting that I'm an outsider, I cannot quite fathom what is fundamentally wrong with women being priests. Just as long as they have somebody to sub for them during that time of the month, ha-ha! (ducking)

As an aside, I don't think I could bear male nuns, however.

97 posted on 05/05/2008 5:43:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; fanfan

I pinged you as a courtesy, as I used and referred to your nick. Your input is welcome, whether relevant or not (BG).

Fanfan, you are misunderstanding my position. I hold no malice towards these folk, but I want nothing to do with their positions and actions.

As for your “crucify” question, that is getting petty and childish. I ask that you act like the adult you are, not the petulant one who asked whether *I* would commit a mortal sin.

I try to live as our Lord decreed. I make mistakes. Fortunately, His grace protects me from my own sins. I pray these fools SEE the error of their ways and are forgiven before they see their final judgement.


98 posted on 05/05/2008 9:33:38 PM PDT by Don W (To write with a broken pencil is pointless.)
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To: Don W

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


99 posted on 05/05/2008 9:38:34 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

I merely answered a direct question, with a reminder we are all adults here. I was directly asked whether I would crucify a certain poster BY that person, and I replied don’t be petulant, act like the adult you are.

Who is doing the attacking, hmmm?


100 posted on 05/05/2008 9:56:20 PM PDT by Don W (To write with a broken pencil is pointless.)
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