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Woman recalls life in polygamist sect (YFZ/fLDS Daily Thread - 5/4/08)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | 05.04.2008 | David Perlmutt

Posted on 05/04/2008 9:18:32 AM PDT by MizSterious

Published: 05.04.2008

Woman recalls life in polygamist sect

By David Perlmutt
MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS
CHARLOTTE, N.C. — She was raised by her father and his three wives, surrounded by 12 siblings.
There was no TV, no radio. At school, she was taught that man never landed on the moon. She and other girls in the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints were required to "keep sweet," free of jealousy or anger, or risk beatings or humiliation.
And by the time Kathy Jo Nicholson turned 14, she was sewing her wedding dress, knowing that any day she could be thrown into marriage with a man three times her age.
Nicholson never finished that dress. Instead, she began to question her faith and, at 18, walked out on it.
All those memories flooded back after authorities removed more than 500 women and children — she knows many — from a Texas compound run by the men who once controlled her life.
"I am happy for the children, though I know they're terrified," said Nicholson, 37, who has lived in Charlotte with her husband and two sons since 2004. "But, now, they have a chance.
"Their mothers, too, have a chance if they'll just grab onto the hands that are reaching out. I know they're conflicted. I know the mind control."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childabuse; flds; fldsdailythread; polygamy; yfz
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To: aberaussie

It IS outright fraud, because in order to qualify for welfare payments, these women have to be representing that the fathers of their children can’t be found or have no assets or earning power with which to support the children. In fact, they know exactly where the fathers are, and the fathers have plenty of earning power, but are mostly working “off the books” and handing over most of their earnings to the cult leaders.


41 posted on 05/04/2008 4:29:24 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: greyfoxx39

I wish I had that ability, but, alas, I don’t.


42 posted on 05/04/2008 5:47:06 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-hshootingsports.org)
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To: greyfoxx39

I hate pdf!


43 posted on 05/04/2008 5:49:01 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (FLDS.... making babies with children because their God wants earthly bodies for spirit babies.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Thanks for the clarification. From what I have read there is lots of money in the sect and it is not uncommon for the women and children to do without while the men have lots of money to play with.


44 posted on 05/04/2008 6:26:26 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: TheDon
Legally, her consent is irrelevant. It's called statutory rape. And if it is a polygamous "marriage", it's not a legal marriage, therefore there is no consent to be given by the parents of the minor. String the perp up with Warren, maybe they will get married to each other. Who knows?

If such an event happened.

However, by her admission, in her case, for some reason it did not.

So in this specific instance, there is no 'perp' to get yourself all lathered up about.

45 posted on 05/04/2008 6:58:42 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: rightazrain
Ahhh, but someone forced into “working on a wedding dress.” In other words, she was being conditioned for the command, whether it came or not. Nice try.

Oh my, being forced to sew a dress for your future... Geez. Call me back when you get have a crime to talk about.

There may have been murders, shootings, stabbings, rapes, etc. etc. etc. going on at that compound - but THIS witness adds NOTHING to the case.

46 posted on 05/04/2008 7:04:51 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Politicalmom

As long as they are going..they might as well take some q-tips with them.


47 posted on 05/04/2008 7:51:45 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Thank God!


48 posted on 05/04/2008 9:15:35 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Being forced to sew a wedding dress for a wedding you don’t want, to a guy you don’t love, for a life of servitude and sexual slavery you don’t want—might not technically be a crime, but it does expose the complete and total moral bankruptcy of this cult. Thank Heaven she escaped.


49 posted on 05/05/2008 6:18:58 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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Parents seek Ottawa's help (YFZ/fLDS Daily Thread - 5/5/08)--new daily thread is now up!
50 posted on 05/05/2008 6:48:02 AM PDT by MizSterious (God bless the Texas Rangers for freeing women & children from sexual slavery and abuse.)
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To: MizSterious
Being forced to sew a wedding dress for a wedding you don’t want, to a guy you don’t love, for a life of servitude and sexual slavery you don’t want—might not technically be a crime, but it does expose the complete and total moral bankruptcy of this cult. Thank Heaven she escaped.

You are reading a lot into the story that simply isn't there.

Escaped? She turned 18, became and adult and left. There is not dramatic 'escape' story presented.

A guy she doesn't love? No 'guy' was ever selected for her.

A life of servitude? A life of sexual slavery? That is a very dim view you have of marriage. Particularly for a marriage in this instance that was never presented or proposed.

While all of those things may be true (or not) about that group - they are not presented in this story.

Find a woman with a real story and present that.

51 posted on 05/05/2008 10:25:25 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: MizSterious

“Let’s say you’re a 6-month-old girl, no evidence whatsoever of any abuse. They’re simply saying, ‘You, in this culture, may grow up to be a child bride when you’re 14. Therefore we’re going to remove you now when you’re 6 months old,”’ he said. “Or, ‘You’re a 6-month-old boy; 25, 30 years, 40 years from now you’re going to be a predator, so we’re going to take you away now.”’

Exactly. The Constitution is tarnished or maybe dead.


52 posted on 05/06/2008 4:21:08 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Exactly. The Constitution is tarnished or maybe dead.

It is dead Jim ... When the Uniform Law group {supposedly our top lawyers in this country} proposes a specific law (UCAPA - aka Uniform Child Abuse Prevention Act) that: 1) allows people to be essentially charged and punished for a felony they have not committed in CIVIL court. 2) allows them to be charged by their EX. 3) allows them to be charged based on COMMON ordinary acts. .. a) Ordinary family acts... ........ picking up your birth certificate ........ picking up your child's medical records. ........ picking up your child's school records. .. b) Ordinary financial acts... {acts done by EVERY person in New Orleans since Katrina) ........ selling a house ........ quitting a job ........ closing a bank account ........ terminating a lease ........ or ANY other 'unusual' transaction .. c) Ordinary life acts... ........ having a sister, brother who lives in another state ........ having 'strong cultural' connections to another state ........ having 'strong emotional connections to another state .. d) Authorizes the judge to rule on an EX-PARTE basis. .. e) Allows the judge to authorize a DYNAMIC entry to take your children should the judge believe the circumstances warrant (aka Eliane Gonzales case). .. f) When such a law passes in over 7 states (Nebraska, South Dakota, Utah, Kansas, Colorado, Nevada, Texas) with scarcely a murmur of opposition by any of the legislatures. .. g) When these 'risk factors' were supposedly developed by the U.S. Department of Justice. .. h) When the American Bar association voted to approve this bill. .. i) When most of the lawyers out there still think the bill only applies to INTERNATIONAL cases to non-Hague treaty compliant countries when they expanded their scope and it actually covers intra-state and in-state 'abductions'. .. j) When 'abductions' is defined so loosely that it covers any case where there is a dispute over parenting time more than an hour long so that the term is reduced to ABSURDITY. .. k) When they trump up that there are 262,000 'abductions' per year based on this absurd definition. Even though most children are with their other parent; most are returned within a few hours past when the 'first parent' thought they should have been home; even though most of the 'first parents' were not concerned about the 'alleged abduction'. .. l) When the only vocal committee member in the Louisiana legislature was a NON-LAWYER. .. k) When only a SINGLE LAWYER is aware enough and brave enough to testify against this bill in Louisiana. I can only conclude that it is DEAD... ROTTED... DECEASED... GONE... EXPIRED... N. Sources: NCCUSL http://www.nccusl.org/Update/DesktopModules/NewsDisplay.aspx?ItemID=162 Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Child_Abduction_Prevention_Act LaDads http://ladads.info/modules/newbb/viewforum.php?forum=19/

53 posted on 05/06/2008 7:01:54 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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