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Does 'Climate Change' Mean 'Changing Data'?
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 4, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 05/04/2008 4:12:29 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die

Methodology used by NASA to estimate rates of climate change are resulting in dramatic shifts in previously published historical temperature data, causing figures for estimated global surface temperature prior to 1970 to now be lower and figures since 1970 to now be higher – and appearing to provide evidence for those who say the Earth is warming.

John Goetz, writing last month in the science blog Climate Audit, analyzed the way NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies calculates estimated global surface temperatures and showed that the addition of new, contemporary data could "have a ripple effect all the way back to the beginning of a [weather] station's history."

Goetz found 32 different versions of published global annual averages going back to Sept. 24, 2005, that showed the published figures – figures used as a baseline to demonstrate change through time – changing hundreds of times.

"On average 20% of the historical record was modified 16 times in the last 2 1/2 years," he wrote. "The largest single jump was 0.27 °C. This occurred between the Oct. 13, 2006 and Jan. 15, 2007 records when Aug 2006 changed from an anomoly of +0.43 °C to +0.70 °C, a change of nearly 68 percent."

Temperature anomalies – differences between the average measured global air temperature and some long-term mean – are primary data for studies of climate change.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: algore; climatechange; globalwarming; nasa
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It seems NASA is "cooking" the book on global warming.
1 posted on 05/04/2008 4:12:30 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die
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Today on C-Span 2:

2 posted on 05/04/2008 4:14:19 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: freerepublic_or_die

Figures never lie,but liars figure.


3 posted on 05/04/2008 4:18:10 AM PDT by ardara
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To: ardara

Sometimes....facts are not facts. Sometimes....data is not data. Sometimes....accuracy is not accurate.

I wish we could put these NASA guys into the baseball statistics department, and maybe we could find a way to have Hank Aaron’s home run record notched up another 100 home runs...to knock Barry off his pedestal. The fortune thing for us? They aren’t into some plan to launch to Mars anytime soon, with real or imaginary or inaccurate data.


4 posted on 05/04/2008 4:28:08 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: freerepublic_or_die

http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/08/1998_no_longer_the_hottest_yea.html


5 posted on 05/04/2008 4:30:56 AM PDT by paltz
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To: pepsionice

Of course, WND demonstrates a horrible understanding of statistics, and distorts the picture itself.

Can’t trust either side. :-(


6 posted on 05/04/2008 4:34:50 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: freerepublic_or_die

The problem is that you just don’t understand the data.

Everything cools after it is first cooked. Therefore the older temperatures must be adjusted downward as time goes by.

The more recent temperatures must be increased because of previous false assumptions that all data must be treated as actually true, not relatively true.

Everyone knows there is no absolute truth anymore.


7 posted on 05/04/2008 4:39:46 AM PDT by dirtstiff
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To: freerepublic_or_die

“‘Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past,” repeated Winston obediently.


8 posted on 05/04/2008 4:44:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

George Orwell said it quite well.


9 posted on 05/04/2008 4:47:43 AM PDT by freerepublic_or_die (Islam:Truly the opium of the morons with apologies to Karl Marx)
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To: dirtstiff

Everything cools after its first cooked. Good line !


10 posted on 05/04/2008 4:47:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: freerepublic_or_die

Intentionally changing recorded scientific data is the greatest sin that a scientist can do. I once had to fire a technician for doing this very thing. Whoever has made these modification to the weather database needs to find themselves in the unemployment line.


11 posted on 05/04/2008 4:50:26 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: ardara

Or, “If you torture the numbers, they’ll tell you what you what to know.”


12 posted on 05/04/2008 4:51:28 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: freerepublic_or_die
"James Hansen, the director of the agency's [NASA's] Goddard Institute for Space Studies, received a $250,000 grant from the charitable foundation headed by former Democrat Presidential candidate John Kerry's wife, Teresa Heinz. Subsequent to the Heinz Foundation grant, Hansen publicly endorsed Democrat John Kerry for president in 2004, a political endorsement considered to be highly unusual for a NASA scientist.":
http://www.freedom.org/news/200607/12/morano.phtml

James Hansen, from October 2004:

"Several years ago I received the Heinz Environment Award. I don't know who nominated me for that award or how the selection works."

"I am confident that it has no impact on my evaluation of the climate problem or on my political leanings."

"In the upcoming election I will vote for John Kerry."

Source: Columbia University.edu [pdf]:
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/dai_complete.pdf

Also see: Teresa Heinz Kerry: Bag Lady for the Radical Left:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12187

13 posted on 05/04/2008 4:54:24 AM PDT by Eye On The Left
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Actually, in the most recent round, GISS numbers jumped back down more than the others. I think Hansen knows he’s getting caught red-handed.


14 posted on 05/04/2008 4:59:28 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: freerepublic_or_die

Global Warming scientist remind me of Soviet historians, who could unfailingly foretell the future, but could not predict the ever changing past.


15 posted on 05/04/2008 5:08:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: freerepublic_or_die
Now we done did it. Global Warming is getting so much momentum, that even the paper records containing results are being affected. As those papers' temperature rises, the numbers on them rise too.

Clearly, the solution is to use carbon offset revenues to purchase freon-substitute cooling and refrigeration machinery to store these global records. This has to be implemented carefully, lest the records become supercooled, and cause Global Cooling.

16 posted on 05/04/2008 5:11:46 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: freerepublic_or_die

Climate change means never having to say you’re sorry.


17 posted on 05/04/2008 5:13:44 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: BuffaloJack

You think the thousands of enviro-weenie meteorologists out there might just be manipulating the current data to protect their beloved Gaia and eliminate those eeeeeeeevil SUVs?


18 posted on 05/04/2008 5:14:28 AM PDT by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 8, 2008.)
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To: BuffaloJack
Intentionally changing recorded scientific data is the greatest sin that a scientist can do.

Agreed.

I once had to fire a technician for doing this very thing.

Likewise.

Whoever has made these modification to the weather database needs to find themselves in the unemployment line.

The data (recorded information) weren't changed. Adjustments were made to the data, out in the open. This is different from falsifying your raw data.

NOAA discusses the basis for the adjustments. Many (all?) of these methods have been published in peer-reviewed journals. See also the USHCN Main Page that references it.

While the end results are debatable, and the methodology might have been politically biased, etc., it's not fraud of the type that you mentioned (e.g., a technician getting a water level from a well that he didn't realize had been plugged since the last time he was at the site :-).

19 posted on 05/04/2008 5:16:40 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: dirtstiff
"Everyone knows there is no absolute truth anymore."

One plus one equals two.

20 posted on 05/04/2008 5:17:14 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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