BTW, the last time I posted that same capture it got deleted.
Posted on 05/02/2008 7:16:11 AM PDT by tcrlaf
This one is EXPLOSIVE, folks! MUST SEE VIDEO! (Before it gets deleted from Youtube, anyway!)
A KOS'r has posted a video on Youtube in which Stephanapolis, Carville, and Mickey Kantor are discussing Polling numbers from Indiana, when Kantor walks up and says:
"Those people don't matter." (then whispers loud enough for the camera to hear) "How would you like to be... A worthless White Nigger?"
OMG!!! The ARROGANCE of these people!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN_nQOHj__s&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/5/2/93316/53926/838/507664
I've been listening with a good-quality post-amplifier feeding good-quality headphones, cranking up the volume at the instant, and I definitely hear him saying "worthless white ni**ers"
Okay, I have changed my mind.
After listening to the edited clip a whole bunch more, he says something like “How would you like to be in the White House...
He absolutely does not say the N-word, imo.
The biggest clue here is the lack of reaction.
Ok, so what do I do when I simply want your post to show up on my ping list so I can view the information on it later?
It hurts Hillary because it hurts all Dems. This video in conjunction with Obama's statements pull back the veil on the elitist attitude of the Dem party, which she is a part of.
Okay now the question is were did the dubbed video come from.
He says “Those people are shi**ing!” and “How would you like to be in the White House....”, imo.
He’s not even talking about Hoosiers, but about the folks running the White House and their reaction to the clobbering they are taking.
I initially believed the edited clip, but it’s now obvious to me that Kantor did not say either of the things the edited clip is trying to make you believe.
With good headphones and volume cranked up, I hear it as "worthless white ni**ers" there too
BTW, the last time I posted that same capture it got deleted.
Yep, it’s clearly doctored and Kantor doesn;t say either of the phrases the video creators want you to believe.
Mickey Kantor Does Not Hold the People of Indiana in the Highest Esteem [Byron York]
I’ve gotten a bunch of emails with a link to this clip on YouTube, a snippet of a scene from The War Room, the hagiographic documentary on the 1992 Clinton campaign team. In it, Mickey Kantor, one of the Clintons’ oldest friends and advisers, refers to the people of Indiana in some rather ugly, profane and uncomplimentary ways. From Hillary Clinton’s perspective, it’s not exactly a good thing to come out a few days before the Indiana primary.
If anyone has a longer version of the scene, I would like to see it; the clip ends pretty abruptly. By the way, the other interesting thing about the clip is that Kantor utters his uncomplimentary words to none other than War Room star George Stephanopoulos, who, as it happens, will be moderating Sen. Clinton’s appearance on ABC’s This Week in Indiana on Sunday.
UPDATE: Kantor spoke to the Huffington Post’s Sam Stein today. From Stein:
Mickey Kantor, who served as campaign chairman during Clinton’s 1992 run for the White House and says he has offered help and advice to Sen. Clinton, insisted that the tape was a fraud and that he was exploring legal steps against the individual who posted it online.
“I’ve never used that word [the n-word] in my entire life, ever, under any circumstance, ever,” an angry Kantor told The Huffington Post, citing his and his parent’s work fighting for civil rights. “I have listened to [the video] and so have you. You can’t tell what it is I’m saying in that second sentence, you can’t decipher that.”
I will agree that the n-word part in the second sentence is hard to make out on the video. But the “those people are s—t” part in the first sentence seems pretty clear.
UPDATE II: A longer clip of The War Room is here. The Kantor clip has been edited, but not in a way that changes anything, so he will need to explain what he meant by “Those people are s—t.” Kantor told Stein that “Indiana was not even on our radar screen, and I was talking about the polling and not the people…If you look at The War Room, this is not the way Carville or George interpreted my statement. This is frankly libelous.”
UPDATE III: Ben Smith of Politico talked to D.A. Pennebaker, who made The War Room:
“[Kantor] does not say that. He does not say that,” said Pennebaker, after viewing the clip.
He said the initial expletive referred to the anticipated reaction in the Bush White House to the fact that Ross Perot’s polling numbers were holding strong.
“What he says is he’s surprised Perot’s numbers are holding,” said Pennebaker in a brief phone interview. “He says they must be shi**ing in the White House.”
The second expletive, he said, appeared to have been entirely fabricated, with new audio dubbed onto the original movie.
UPDATE IV: After reviewing it again, I believe Kantor and Pennebaker.
05/02 11:41 AM
Pay attention to the context in the longer clip. Kantor is not even talking about Hoosiers and there is no reaction to what he says.
Kantor does not say either phrase, imo.
He says the White House people are shi**ing about the vote numbers, and he says something about “How would you like to be in the White House...”
Now we have to track down the bastards who just tried to influence the election with a bogus video.
I don’t like Clinton or Obama, but I really hate people who do this sort of stuff.
If you don't want my post itself, just the link, you could click it, and bookmark the page you land on.
You could copy a link to the post # (right click on the "6" and choose COPY LINK, and paste that into a note, or send private mail to yourself.
You could use the word "Bookmark" rather than "Ping" to clarify your purpose.
Probably other things as well.
Yes, it will certainly be done to us in November!
So the KOS'ers are claiming to have this original dubbed tape.
Hmmmm
“Kantor does not say either phrase, imo”
I glad you are not on the SONAR watch.
Either he doesn’t say the “N” word here or he says it so often they aren’t surprised by him saying it. I gotta believe he wouldn’t have said it with a video camera 16 inches away!
Looks like this was all just some KOS shenanigans. The video is down and here is the original.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wKOgMNs0U
4:40 in
Exactly. He apologizes to the camera for saying sh**ing, but then goes on to say worthless, white, ni****, and no one bats an eye? Doesn’t make sense.
Hey, I believed it initially.
It’s now clear to me that I was fooled.
I listened again, and it’s still clear to me.
Kantor says “Those people are shi**ing!” in reference to the white house campaign folks. Kantor also says, “How would you like to be in the white house...”.
The other phrses don’t even make sense for him to say when you see the unedited clip.
Why would he say that Indianans are sh*t, when he is leading in Indiana? Makes no sense, even for Kantor.
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