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Judge orders FLDS newborn into state custody
Chron.com ^ | May 1, 2008 | MICHELLE ROBERTS

Posted on 05/01/2008 4:44:54 PM PDT by Politicalmom

SAN ANTONIO — A judge ordered that the baby boy born to a girl taken from a polygamist sect's ranch in West Texas be placed in state custody, according to documents released Thursday.

Texas District Judge Barbara Walther signed the order Wednesday giving the state custody of the 1-day-old infant born to a teen believed to be 15 or 16 years old.

The girl has claimed to be 18, according to an affidavit signed by Ruby Gutierrez, a Child Protective Services caseworker, but officials believe she is younger and placed her in foster care with other children taken from the ranch.

The newborn is the teen's second child; the first is a 20-month-old boy. The father of both children was identified as Jackson Jessop, 22, but state officials say they don't know his whereabouts.

Child welfare officials now have 464 children in their custody, swept from the Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado because authorities believe underage girls were forced into marriages and sex with older men. Authorities are also now investigating possible sexual abuse of boys.

Church members have vehemently denied there was any abuse, and civil liberties groups have raised concerns at the sweeping nature of the removals.

Individual custody hearings are set to be completed by June 5.

CPS and law enforcement raided the ranch on April 3 after a girl who was purportedly 16 called a domestic abuse hotline to complain of abuse at the hands her much older husband. Authorities are investigating whether the calls were a hoax.

Regardless, child welfare authorities say 31 of the 53 girls aged 14-17 have children or are pregnant.

Under Texas law, children under the age of 17 generally cannot consent to sex with an adult. A girl can get married with parental permission at 16, but the girls who belong to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are not believed to have legal marriages.

FLDS is a breakaway sect of the mainline Mormon church, which disavowed polygamy a century ago.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: childabuse; flds; mormonbashing; ruling; yfzranch
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To: Hodar
One of the points of contention I see in these threads are the hate of the FLDS pitted against the conservative fear of a government that is growing out of control.

For even saying such a thing reveals to all that you are a rapist who enjoys the thought of old men impregnating young girls.

Or at least that's what I was called.

141 posted on 05/01/2008 6:06:38 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (OVERPRODUCTION......... one of the top five worries for American farmers.)
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To: Hunble

Yes, biologically the only have one mother.

But this cult has them calling many women ‘mother.’

BTW, these lousy fathers are cowards. Up until now, only about 8 of them have showed up for DNA testing.

Filthy perverted cowards.


142 posted on 05/01/2008 6:06:50 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: najida
‘The state is evil’ stuff is annoying.

Perhaps you should do a little research on how well the state handles children in it's care.

"I am here today to release disturbing information found during my investigation about the deaths, poisonings, rapes and pregnancies of children in our state's foster care system. "I found, from information provided by the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, in Fiscal 2003, 30 foster children died in our state's care; in Fiscal 2004, 38 foster children died; and in Fiscal 2005, 48 foster children died.

http://www.window.state.tx.us/news/60623statement.html "Data shows that while the number of foster children in our state's care increased 24 percent from 26,133 in Fiscal 2003 to 32,474 in Fiscal 2005, the number of deaths increased 60 percent.

"If you compare the number of deaths of children in our state's population to the number of deaths in our state's foster care system, a child is four times more likely to die in our state's foster care system.

"Based on Fiscal 2004 data provided by the Health and Human Services Commission, about 100 children received treatment for poisoning from medications; 63 foster children received medical treatment for rape that occurred while in the foster care system; and 142 children gave birth while in the state foster care system.

143 posted on 05/01/2008 6:07:11 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: metmom

Just heard Megan Kelly of FOX News also an Atty.
speak of many boys who have been sexually abused
and so much we already know of this sick cult.

The folks who don’t want to know or care what this cult has been doing - it is all about the Gov. They are the
Libertarian type who have as their enemy the Gov.

Some of these folks have stated on other threads, they would rather have Obama or Hitlery as Pres. and the next time people will vote for the right guy.
They prove they are delusional as there won’t be a next time.


144 posted on 05/01/2008 6:07:31 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: prayforpeaceofJerusalem
I will wait for the court transcripts and see who was actually convicted of a crime.

For many Freepers, they are projecting personal memories upon people they have never known.

I admit that I am biased on this subject, for the same reasons.

145 posted on 05/01/2008 6:08:07 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Hunble

I saw a crippled little girl slowly walking with a clear congenital defect being left behind by her ‘mother’/caregiver on TV. It was pretty clear the degree of ‘love and caring’ being exhibited for the kids.

So yeah, toss in underage non-consentual raped girls and Mama’s and you have a group that earns the tag evil.


146 posted on 05/01/2008 6:08:57 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Actually, there are lots of foster homes that take Mom’s and babies. They specialize in that. Honest.


147 posted on 05/01/2008 6:09:53 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Most guys see themselves is Brad Pitt, and think every woman here is Aunt Bea)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Agreed.

Only it is IMPURE EVIL...

Fascist Satanic Statism at its worst !!

“First they came for the strange religious cults....” Ya’ll know the rest..

Speak up now, while we are still able!


148 posted on 05/01/2008 6:10:22 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: Hunble; the808bass

Sheesh, and here I thought even the LDS here on this forum considers the FLDS a cult. And you don’t? Why not?


149 posted on 05/01/2008 6:10:27 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Politicalmom
The father of both children was identified as Jackson Jessop, 22, but state officials say they don't know his whereabouts.

I'd look in Colorado City or Hildale.

150 posted on 05/01/2008 6:10:45 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: metmom

A court of law in this case is not needed to prove the guilt of the cult for all the accusations against them, as to the rape of young girls who are bred for sex slavery in this cult and the taking away of the children fromt heir birth mothers and passing them to other mothers multiple times and even to other fathers.
The facts are not hidden, and the members of the cult themselves have condemned themselves by their own words and actions, multiple times. Their leader is in prison for the things like this, and just one among the other lawsuits pending against him is that of one of his nephew’s, who is suing him for sexually molestating him, from the time he was 5.

What you are hoping for is a technicality -not justice- to set the evil men and women free of the ability to be punished for their “most well known” crimes.


151 posted on 05/01/2008 6:10:49 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: Hodar
Hodar,
Think of it this way. If you had a few kids ( 10, 12 and 14 y/o girls) that were living with your wife and her boyfriend...and one of the kids told you that the boyfriend was hurting them and Mom was allowing it because the new church they go to says it's ok...and your oldest daughter is calling the boyfriend husband and getting a tummy..would you want the kids to be left there while the ex and her new guy were checked out, or would you be demanding they be removed, somewhere safe, probably with you, until an investigation was done ?
152 posted on 05/01/2008 6:11:00 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: MizSterious

Democ rats are documented to be without moral foundations, so it is very possible that we have Texas democrats trying to create the biggest stink they can, to get empowerment for their party in Texas by demeaning the current powers that be in Texas.


153 posted on 05/01/2008 6:11:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: metmom
Should we condemn her & her children to a lifetime of government meddling for what she might do?

God help us all...

154 posted on 05/01/2008 6:11:36 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Kill them with kindness, then taser them for fun.)
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To: LongElegantLegs
Sorry, anyone who reccomends a textbook used by social workers probably can't be helped. :-) I have a good quote for you, though:

It is also used by law enforcement, and was developed by people who research both victims of sex crimes, and perpetrators incarcerated within the penal system. You can reject research on any topic out of hand, and when none of it will support your position, I suppose you have to.

I also posted that you will find your position unsupported by people who personally experienced sexual abuse as children.Here are some places you can check that out.


155 posted on 05/01/2008 6:13:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: najida

It appears that some people are so consumed by their hate and fear that they are incapable of admitting that anything good can be done by the government at any level.


156 posted on 05/01/2008 6:13:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: the808bass

It’s the flds talking points. They are hoping to get the evil criminals free, by technicalities, to go on as usual, and continue to do what they plainly do, which is against the laws of God and Texas and the Federal Gov of the USA.


157 posted on 05/01/2008 6:13:16 PM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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To: najida

I believe that there are, and maybe she’ll end up in one. It would be great if the courts allowed them to stay together.


158 posted on 05/01/2008 6:14:11 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Kill them with kindness, then taser them for fun.)
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To: Hunble

You’re so right with your example...

But it’s not politically correct to go into the inner city and take little black children away...

Or worse....

These SAME Fascist Hellions are also the one and the same types who tell Jr High Girls how to use condoms, and how to get abortions without letting their parents know.

The ONE ... the ONE SINGLE CONSTANT... they separate mother and child... either physically, as in the FLDS case.. or emotionally, as with the Abortion secrets.

Wicked Hell Fires have these “Protective Services” and Judges rooms waiting for them.... And they can “go there” as soon as possible.


159 posted on 05/01/2008 6:14:23 PM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: Hodar

How waiting until a child is abused protecting them?


160 posted on 05/01/2008 6:14:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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