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To: Antoninus

The point I was making, and stated explicitly was that Hitler’s actions were designed to create a master race within the human species (after Plato) and not a new species (after Darwin).

I will not look through all of Hitler’s writings to see if he cites Plato directly. I have said that he never cites Darwin as an influence, but he does reference christianity. I do not believe I have ever said he cited Plato.

From Mein Kampf:

“We all feel that in the distant future many may be faced with problems which can be solved only by a superior race of human beings, a race destined to become master of all the other peoples and which will have at its disposal the means and resources of the whole world.”

“What makes a people or, to be more correct, a race, is not language but blood.”

“All these opinions have this common feature and failing: that they are not grounded in a recognition of the profound truth that the capacity for creating cultural values is essentially based on the racial element and that, in accordance with this fact, the paramount purpose of the State is to preserve and improve the race; for this is an indispensable condition of all progress in human civilization.”

“Thus the indispensable prerequisite for the existence of a superior quality of human beings is not the State but the race, which is alone capable of producing that higher human quality.”

“The constructive principle of Aryan humanity is thus displaced by the destructive principle of the Jews, They become the ‘ferment of decomposition’ among nations and races and, in a broad sense, the wreckers of human civilization”

Again, Hitler’s eugenics programs, including the haulocaust and the Lebensborn programs, followed Plato’s methods for creating a superior race within our species. Darwin was concerned with the evolution of one species into another. Therefore Darwin could not have been a source for these programs.


318 posted on 06/24/2008 8:28:41 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Soliton
Your premise has been completely exploded by dozens of posts on this thread, and yet you haven't backed off of it even an iota. You respond with the same invalid points over and over.

These are the hallmarks of invincible ignorance as spouted by an ideologue, not rational debate. As such, There is no point in continuing this discussion.

May Almighty God shower his blessings upon you that you may someday come to know the Truth.
320 posted on 06/24/2008 8:50:06 AM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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