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CA: Big Government types and Prop 99
Victorville Daily Press ^ | 28 April 2008 | Steve Williams

Posted on 04/29/2008 10:57:43 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Big Government types and Prop 99

All you really need to know about the two eminent domain propositions on the June 3 ballot, 98 and 99, is that Proposition 99 is being touted by politicians and other government types as the real solution to government intrusion on private property ownership.

Among them are the usual suspects, including California Sen. Dianne Feinstein and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, both of whom believe in Big Government, and both of whom describe Proposition 98 as a hindrance to solving such state problems as water quality and supply. Feinstein, in a release at the end of the week, said the measure would “threaten the environment,” among other things, and Schwarzenegger, in a similar announcement, said it would ‘jeopardize the state’s ability to rebuild our aging infrastructure.”

Translation: Proposition 98 would prevent state and local government from running roughshod over private property owners by giving them the ability to condemn and then acquire that property by force of law, all in the interests of creating bigger government at the expense of private individuals.

Among others who’ve come down on the side of Proposition 99, a toothless version of eminent domain protection which would enlarge, not lessen, the ability of government to take what it wants from the private sector, are such Big Government supporters as former Republican Gov. Pete Wilson, the American Association of Retired Persons, the League of Women Voters of California, the California Chamber of Commerce (which far too often works hand-in-glove with the Legislature), and the California Teachers Association (which issues marching orders to Democrat legislators on all proposals that expand government power, and those legislators fall in step like the robots they’ve become).

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aarp; calinitiatives; cta; eminentdomain; feinstein; kelo; leagueofwomenvoters; lwv; prop98; prop99; property; propertyrights; proposition98; proposition99; schwarzenegger; wilson
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1 posted on 04/29/2008 10:57:43 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Big Government proponents mentioned:

• Sen. Dianne Feinstein
• Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger
• former Republican Gov. Pete Wilson
• American Association of Retired Persons
• League of Women Voters of California
• California Chamber of Commerce
• California Teachers Association

I suppose they’ll be adding Jerry Brown, Villaraigosa, Newsom, Nunez, Maldonado and the rest of the liberals to this list, as well.

Dontcha just love this one-party “post-partisanship” stuff? /s


2 posted on 04/30/2008 8:58:56 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

California breaks my heart everyday.


3 posted on 04/30/2008 9:05:29 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: calcowgirl
The California Democratic Party opposes it of course. Has Abel "Arnold's butt boy" Maldonado come out against 98? Wouldn't surprise me. It becomes excruciatingly difficult to comment on California politics without resorting to "colorful" adjectives. ****
4 posted on 04/30/2008 9:14:31 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (How many of your civil rights & liberties are you willing to sacrifice per election just to vote (R))
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The California Democratic Party opposes it of course. Has Abel "Arnold's butt boy" Maldonado come out against 98? Wouldn't surprise me.

I haven't seen anything... but the Able Lapdog can always be counted upon--to do the wrong thing.

It becomes excruciatingly difficult to comment on California politics without resorting to "colorful" adjectives. ****

I hear ya!

5 posted on 04/30/2008 9:18:45 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Prop 98 BumP


6 posted on 04/30/2008 11:20:48 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... San FRancisco or Bust!)
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I do not oppose eminent domain. If the government needs to condemn property to expand a highway, build a school, or other general public need then they should be able to do so - at market prices.

They must not be able to condemn private property to turn the property over to private concerns such as shopping mall and highrise developers.

Does Prop 98 prevent the government from the latter, while permitting the former? Where is the language of this bill?


7 posted on 05/01/2008 11:06:52 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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Prop 98 only prevents the government from using eminent domain for the benefit of private development. It doesn't prevent them from taking for public use (e.g., schools, parks, roads)

Full text is available here.

8 posted on 05/06/2008 10:48:28 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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Here is the skinny on the fraudulent "League of California Homeowners".

See for Yourself

I can just see those toads (all three of them) sitting in a back room asking each other, "What name can we come up with that might make the homeowning taxpayer think we're on their side?"

I have always been of the opinion that individuals or small groups who perpetrate that sort of fraud on the ignorant should be prosecuted. Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom to perpetrate fraud.

9 posted on 05/31/2008 11:39:36 AM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Publius6961
Indeed. Like "People for the American Way" and the "Human Rights Campaign"... all bogus misleading names.
10 posted on 05/31/2008 2:08:37 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Abortion is a weapon of mass destruction)
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