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Cries of 'Duce! Duce!' salute Rome's new mayor (Fascist-era chants back in vogue)
The Guardian (UK) ^ | April 29, 2008 | John Hooper

Posted on 04/29/2008 3:42:42 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

guardian.co.uk

6.30pm BST Cries of 'Duce! Duce!' salute Rome's new mayor John Hooper in Rome Tuesday April 29 2008

Italy's new parliament met for the first time today with applause for Rome's mayor-elect, Gianni Alemanno, a day after followers celebrated his triumph with straight-arm salutes and fascist-era chants.

Alemanno, a former neo-fascist youth leader, took 54% of the vote in a run-off on Sunday and Monday, crushing his rival, Francesco Rutelli, a deputy prime minister in the last, centre-left government.

Silvio Berlusconi, who won a general election earlier this month, welcomed the latest evidence of Italy's leap to the right by declaring: "We are the new Falange". Although he took care to wrap his remark in a classical context, his choice of words appeared to be a nod and a wink to his most extreme supporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: falange; italy; mayor; rome
He might want to take the "straight-arm salutes" and "fascist-era chants" down a notch.

I'm just saying.

1 posted on 04/29/2008 3:42:42 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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Alemanno, a former neo-fascist youth leader

How appropriate that his name translates as "German".

2 posted on 04/29/2008 3:44:39 PM PDT by SolidWood
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To: Arec Barrwin
You are right of course; but strictly speaking it's a Roman salute.

BTW American school children were taught to salute the flag that way until these unsavory characters started doing it. Then we switched to the hand over heart salute.



3 posted on 04/29/2008 4:02:45 PM PDT by BitBucket
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Gianni Alemanno, a day after followers celebrated his triumph with straight-arm salutes and fascist-era chants. ............... Wow the rebirth of the Roman Empire has returned, soon all the trains will run on time again? Joking aside, this may have something to do with the local growth of Islam. Sort of an Italy for Italians thing? I don’t think they’re too thrilled with any form of immigration.


4 posted on 04/29/2008 4:06:45 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( Why am I having a problem getting psyched up over the 2008 election? Where is the choice?)
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To: Arec Barrwin
You are right of course; but strictly speaking it's a Roman salute.

BTW American school children were taught to salute the flag that way until these unsavory characters started doing it. Then we switched to the hand over heart salute.



5 posted on 04/29/2008 4:09:33 PM PDT by BitBucket
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...... strictly speaking it's a Roman salute. BTW American school children were taught to salute the flag that way until these unsavory characters started doing it.

The fasces of the Roman Republic was also considered a noble symbol until those unsavory characters started using it.


6 posted on 04/29/2008 4:11:02 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: SolidWood

How appropriate that his name translates as “German”. ...............Italians refer to Germans as Tedesco. Aleman (accent mark over the 2nd “a”) is spanish


7 posted on 04/29/2008 4:17:33 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( Why am I having a problem getting psyched up over the 2008 election? Where is the choice?)
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Europeans are numskulls when it comes to politics. When faced with a challenge or problem like immigration or bad economy they swing between Fascists or Communists. Italians have taken this to an edge. That's right vs. left for them. They are statists with no genuine tradition of Freedom, authentic Republicanism and self-responsibility. The response to Islamic immigration should be a defense of Western freedom and values, not apish longings for that tuti-fruti Mussolini. Idiots. General Patton was dead-on with his remark to US soldiers with German or Italian ancestry:

"Many of you have in your veins Geman and Italian blood. But remember that these ancestors of yours so loved freedom that they gave up home and country to cross the ocean in search of liberty. The ancestors of the people we shall kill lacked the courage to make such a sacrifice and remained slaves." -- George S. Patton

8 posted on 04/29/2008 4:17:53 PM PDT by SolidWood
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Italians refer to Germans as Tedesco. Aleman (accent mark over the 2nd “a”) is spanish

Ah, my bad Italian is showing... Thanks for correction, but "Alleman" refers to the Germanic tribe anyway, doesn't it.

9 posted on 04/29/2008 4:19:36 PM PDT by SolidWood
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He might want to take the "straight-arm salutes" and "fascist-era chants" down a notch.

Right-wingers in Europe are a very different breed from their North American counterparts.

10 posted on 04/29/2008 4:26:34 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Polybius
The fasces of the Roman Republic was also considered a noble symbol until those unsavory characters started using it.

Why do you say "until"? Turn on C-SPAN and look at the wall behind the Speaker of the House. That torch thing on the back of the dime is modeled on the fasces also.

11 posted on 04/29/2008 4:28:26 PM PDT by BitBucket
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Hmmm...then there was Lenin > Mussolini > Hitler.

Today there’s...


12 posted on 04/29/2008 4:35:36 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SolidWood

One has to go back centuries to dig up the Alleman tribe of Germany. I would think they were in the area of Southwest Germany because the French, Portuguese and the Spanish seem to have similar words for them.


13 posted on 04/29/2008 4:38:35 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( Why am I having a problem getting psyched up over the 2008 election? Where is the choice?)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I think you guys need to consider the source of this article before convincing yourself that this new mayor is another Mussolini.

To the Guardian, anyone to the right of Trotsky is a fascist.


14 posted on 04/29/2008 5:03:08 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: Arec Barrwin

A little Duce coup?


15 posted on 04/29/2008 5:08:24 PM PDT by mikrofon (They don't know what they got...)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
One has to go back centuries to dig up the Alleman tribe of Germany. I would think they were in the area of Southwest Germany because the French, Portuguese and the Spanish seem to have similar words for them.

You are right. The Alemani was a Germanic tribe in what is now southwest Germany. Tacitus wrote a little book describing the tribes the Romans encountered.

16 posted on 04/29/2008 6:15:50 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Arec Barrwin; Clemenza
"Cries of 'Duce! Duce!' salute Rome's new mayor John Hooper in Rome Tuesday"

The new Mayor of Rome is named John Hooper ?

17 posted on 04/29/2008 7:07:36 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Italians refer to Germans as Tedesco.

Yeah I thought for a second my Italian teacher didn't know what he was talking about, Io sono Tedesco, Noi andiamo Tedesci.

18 posted on 04/29/2008 7:13:06 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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