Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

McCain moves to middle on health care (what a guy, why does this not surprise me)
Policito.com ^ | 4/29/2008 | MIKE ALLEN & JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 04/29/2008 6:15:15 AM PDT by stockpirate

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is proposing a greater federal commitment to people without health insurance on Tuesday, suggesting that it help funds states to set up non-profit risk pools to help Americans who are denied coverage or can’t afford it.

McCain’s health-policy experts provided a ballpark estimate of $7 billion a year for the new federal commitment.

“Cooperation among states in the purchase of insurance would … be a crucial step in ridding the market of both needless and costly regulations, and the dominance in the market of only a few insurance companies,” McCain says in remarks prepared for delivery Tuesday morning in Tampa, Fla.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; communism; election2008; healthcare; independentvote; issues; marxistmiddle; mccain; mccare; middlemyeye; middleofmarx; notmiddle; socialism
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-143 next last
To: stockpirate

My favorite line:

“If it turns out to be the case that one of the problems turns out to be not enough money, then [McCain would] work with Congress to develop the funding in a sensible and responsible way,” Holtz-Eakin said.

BOHICA, taxpayers! Now somebody tell me that McCain is a fiscal conservative.


21 posted on 04/29/2008 6:55:13 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (The NC GOP is McCain's maverick.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nathan Zachary

If government would get out of healthcare financing, it would drop the cost by a considerable margin. I’m guessing 25% or more.


22 posted on 04/29/2008 6:55:52 AM PDT by wordsofearnest ("That government is best which governs least")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Nathan Zachary
McCain is simply moving into Hillary territory and taking votes away from her.

Well, you are half right.

23 posted on 04/29/2008 6:55:57 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Paige

I’m still holding a slim hope that an acceptable Third Party Candidate emerges. Otherwise, it’s a beauty contest...choose which leftist candidate you want...


24 posted on 04/29/2008 6:55:59 AM PDT by Rational Thought
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: stockpirate
You object to this reasonable proposal? Why? People without health insurance COST me far more than people with health coverage because:

1. They don't seek preventative illness measures but then go to the hospital when they are really sick.
2. By law, hospitals cannot turn anyone away who cannot pay; costing both you and me.
3. By making insurance affordable through tax credits, McCain would be helping to reduce these costs.
4. There is an economic advantage when more premium-paying people are in a health insurance plan.

25 posted on 04/29/2008 6:57:31 AM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 268 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: contemplator
There is no middle ground with socialism,

There is likewise no such thing as capping prices in a market economy . The price will be at the intersection of marginal demand and marginal supply .

26 posted on 04/29/2008 6:58:32 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: stockpirate

Sounds familiar. To put the strategy succinctly: socialize the risks, privatize the profits.


27 posted on 04/29/2008 7:00:38 AM PDT by thecabal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: al_c
At least until somebody caps medical and pharmacy costs along with tort reform.

Yes, by all meansm lets just go totally Communist with caps and cost controls.
How about getting government completely out and let the free market return?
This mess started in 1964 with the first real government intrusion into the sector and it has been FUBAR ever since.

28 posted on 04/29/2008 7:01:27 AM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: al_c
At least until somebody caps medical and pharmacy costs along with tort reform.

Somebody? Why don't you want to say it. Somebody is the Federal government, they guys with the guns.

Hell, why stop with the health care industry? Let's nationalize the car industry, They're run by a bunch of screw ups. Somebody has to save the car industry, oh and lower car prices.

And food. Why should someone profit from people's need for food? A stable food supply is too important to leave to the mercy of speculators.

And on and on and on......

29 posted on 04/29/2008 7:06:21 AM PDT by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: meandog

I am 57 years old, I have not had health coverage for over 12 years. And before then there was a time when I didn’t have coverage for even longer periods.

No one pays my health bills but me. And I am not a rich person, make under 65k/year, sometimes not that.

Why should I be FORCED to buy something for someone else when I do not buy it for myself?

When I was a single [arent I wirked abut 60 hours a week to raise my daughter, I could never afford to buy a house.

A man I knew who was buying a house and was black, siad the government was helping him pay him mortgage, the amount of money he was getting was about the amount they were stealing from me!

So I was buying his house


30 posted on 04/29/2008 7:09:06 AM PDT by stockpirate (Be a MAVERICK in the GOP , go against the wishes of our nominee John McCain!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: stockpirate
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is proposing a greater federal commitment to people without health insurance on Tuesday, suggesting that it help funds states to set up non-profit risk pools to help Americans who are denied coverage or can’t afford it.

McCAIN 2008: "Because Liberal Is As Liberal Does."

31 posted on 04/29/2008 7:17:33 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DManA

Dude ... lighten up.


32 posted on 04/29/2008 7:18:11 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: bill1952
"How about getting government completely out and let the free market return?"

Great idea, but first you have to convince the public that health care is not a right, it's a commodity.

The problem is, people think of health care as a basic human right, and therefore, like basic social safety nets like welfare, should be maintained by the taxpayer. (government) That is where Medicaid came from originally.

Now, because of rising medical costs, from laws suits,(the need for torte reform, settlement caps) administrative costs (caused by too many insurers) doctors medical malpractice insurance costs, hospital administrative costs, drug costs, and just plain fat, lazy,unhealthy people costing insurers a lot of money when their health fails, more and more people are unable to pay for private insurance.

One solution, is that people should be putting the equivelant to private insurance costs into their own "insurance" investment plan, which will generate funds for when they do need medical services in their golden years, and maintain a simple basic accident type insurance plan during their healthy years.

That's not going to help anyone who didn't do this and are getting old now however. There's going to have to be some sort of expanded Medicaid program for those people, a preventative health care system to cut down expensive hospital ER costs,
And a government incentive program to get people to invest in their own future health care cost needs.

33 posted on 04/29/2008 7:21:11 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: al_c

Nope. It’s too important.


34 posted on 04/29/2008 7:22:02 AM PDT by DManA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: stockpirate

Ugh. Sure wish we had someone decent running for office. Our only hope is that John will pick a decent Veep, then die soon after taking office.


35 posted on 04/29/2008 7:22:51 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mimaw
You who receive insurance through your employers have no clue what it's like for we self insured.

Congratulations. Your Michael Moore impression is now perfect down to the last syllable and intonation.

You must be so proud.

36 posted on 04/29/2008 7:22:55 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: DManA

Okay then ... what is your recommendation? What can we do to remedy the under and uninsured issue? What’s the best way to fix it?


37 posted on 04/29/2008 7:23:15 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Southerngl
I don’t either. As an insurance agent for 20 plus years, states have had a pool for auto and home insurance. Why not health insurance? If you want to play in the race for health insurance, at least allow ‘uninsurables’ to purchase too. Higher cost, but better than nothing. If you have cancer (as my mom did) and you have insurance through job for lower group rate (as my mom did) and you have to quit your job because of said cancer (as my mom did) and lose Cobra after the reassignment period, you are screwed. Luckily my dad had Champus from retirement in the military, but I don’t know what would have happened if she didn’t and all those who don’t have that option.

BINGO you hit the nail on the head:

38 posted on 04/29/2008 7:28:06 AM PDT by cynicalman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: stockpirate

Its not a bad idea and its sure beats socialized medicine.


39 posted on 04/29/2008 7:29:55 AM PDT by ncalburt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bill1952
Well, you are half right.

LOL! True.

40 posted on 04/29/2008 7:30:52 AM PDT by TADSLOS (John McCain marches stealthily at the half step to the socialist drum to let the sheeple sleep.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141-143 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson