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To: Abigail Adams
...which resulted in his death being changed from “drowning” to “homicide.”

Not meaning to be a wise acre but can't they (the authorities) tell? Won't there be marks on the body? Signs of a struggle? Facial expression of the deceased? Something? Sure the victims might have been drunk but everyone of them so drunk that self-preservation didn't kick in? Surely not all the bodies were only found when it was too late to look for these signs and clues.

Just wondering....

51 posted on 04/28/2008 6:01:24 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame
If the victims were drugged with GHB(sp?) or the veterinary anesthesia, or even chloral hydrate, and unconscious when drowned, they would not even be conscious of their demise. What we don't have in this thread is any of the other 'characteristics' of the corpses ... were they sexually assaulted before or after being drowned, were there any signs of struggle, etc.?
85 posted on 04/30/2008 2:46:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: yankeedame
“Won't there be marks on the body? Signs of a struggle? Facial expression of the deceased? Something? Sure the victims might have been drunk but everyone of them so drunk that self-preservation didn't kick in?”

During one of the interviews the aspect of torture was brought up. One of the detectives said each “pod” or cell has its own variations and if signs of outward trauma was readily visible then the victim just disappeared. Only the “cleaner” victims went into the water. I am also willing to bet there are trophy videos either to keep people in line or relive the event. Who ever is doing this has some sort of underlying ideology or belief system to insure silence and cooperation among the members. I don't think its gang related in the classical sense ie: (MS13 or Crips). It sounds almost like cult or religion activity. If this develops further it means who ever is doing this is very good.

87 posted on 04/30/2008 5:43:12 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hey. I got a question. How are you planning to get back down that hill?)
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