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To: BulletBobCo

I give a couple of guys I work with now that were in the Air Force a hard time about being cream puffs, and always having the nicest barracks, and housing. They just say, well the Air force decided to spend money on their airmen instead of other things.
The Army has a long way to go to provide real decent living conditions for their single soldiers. Speaking from experience.


4 posted on 04/28/2008 4:19:04 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: vpintheak
I give a couple of guys I work with now that were in the Air Force a hard time about being cream puffs, and always having the nicest barracks, and housing. They just say, well the Air force decided to spend money on their airmen instead of other things. The Army has a long way to go to provide real decent living conditions for their single soldiers. Speaking from experience.

Very true.

We spend enough money to give every Iraqi man, woman, and child 25 years salary, and then treat our soldiers like this (and I can confirm that Ft. Bragg--and other bases--actually are like this.) We rebuild their bridges while ours fall apart. We build them power plants and oil facilities, while we watch oil prices skyrocket.

We tell them democracy and rights are great, while we confiscate their weapons. We hire "contractors" to carry weapons over there while preventing our own citizens from having them here.

And we have people saying that living in tents is "cruel and unusual punishment" for convicts, while our self-sacrificing heroes in the military make them their homes for so long.

Things are so upside down. The least we could do is make the barracks livable.

15 posted on 04/28/2008 5:17:47 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: vpintheak
Having been in the AF, and having been stationed (TDY) at both Army and Navy bases, I can honestly say that they were both sub-standard as compared with the AF.

Most enlisted above the rank of E-5 found off-base quarters, and I sort of think that was expected.

That said, something needs to be done for these men and women.

Base/Post Commanders should be held responsible, and a good commander would kick some a$$ to get it done. That is the first responsibility of a commander. Take care of your troops, no matter where they are.

AR

22 posted on 04/28/2008 6:04:13 PM PDT by alarm rider ("Difficile est saturam non scibere" -- it's difficult not to write satire.)
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To: vpintheak; BulletBobCo
...Air Force a hard time about being cream puffs, and always having the nicest barracks, and housing. They just say, well the Air force decided to spend money on their airmen instead of other things.

One thing you need to understand. The Air Force does a lot of "Self-Help" projects. This means you spend weekends and holidays making a dorm or office building a better place. I've seen gazebos built and drop ceilings installed in self help projects.

You can whine about the facilities or you can pick up your tools and do something about it.

Another part of this is that the Air Force won't tolerate morons who tear up the facilities. I've been on Army bases and I've seen the damage that a few out of control morons (from both services) can do.

32 posted on 04/28/2008 8:49:11 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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