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AP Poll: Clinton leads McCain, doing better than Obama (Rush Will get Hillary Elected President)
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press (via ClariNet) ^ | Monday, 28-Apr-2008 3:12PM EDT | Story from AP / LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 04/28/2008 1:02:17 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hillary Rodham Clinton now leads John McCain by 9 points in a head-to-head presidential matchup, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll that bolsters her argument that she is more electable than Democratic rival Barack Obama.

The survey released Monday gives the New York senator and former first lady a fresh talking point as she works to raise much-needed campaign cash and persuade pivotal undecided superdelegates to side with her in the drawn-out Democratic primary fight.

Helped by independents, young people and seniors, Clinton gained ground this month in a hypothetical match with Sen. McCain, the GOP nominee-in-waiting. She now leads McCain, 50 percent to 41 percent, while Obama remains virtually tied with McCain, 46 percent to 44 percent.

Both Democrats were roughly even with McCain in the previous poll about three weeks ago.

Since then, Clinton won the Pennsylvania primary, raising questions anew about whether Obama can attract broad swaths of voters needed to triumph in such big states come the fall when the Democratic nominee will go up against McCain.

Added Steve Lombardo, a GOP pollster: "This just reinforces the sentiment that a lot of Republican strategists are having right now -- that Clinton might actually be the more formidable fall candidate for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is that Obama can't seem to get his footing back."

(Excerpt) Read more at nv.clari.net ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; hillary; limbaugh; mccain; obama; operationchaos; operationchaose; talkradio
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

That is the very worst thing that you can do. You are playing with fire. For the first time in the 17 years I’ve listened to Rush Limbaugh, he is putting his own personal feelings against McCain ahead of the good of the country. Obama has to win Indiana to knock her out once and for all. He is the weaker candidate. I can’t understand how people don’t see this. We can defeat him in November with a knockout punch. If Hillary manages to get the nomination, she will win, no two ways about it. Please don’t help make her my son’s commander in chief.


101 posted on 04/28/2008 1:58:24 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: saminfl
If you are so much more intelligent than Rush why aren't you on the radio?

By that logic, the fact you're not on the radio makes you stupider than Rhandi Rhodes, Al Franken and Ron Kuby.

The fact of the matter is that a lot of us are loyal Freepers. But we're smart enough to see when a plan is not coming together.

Rush and his followers can't even keep the goal of OC straight. Have the people posting here in support of it think it's to nominate Hillary, whom they see as the 'weaker' candidate and the other half think it is to damage Obama before he gets the nomination.

And Rush is on record as saying he thought it might be better for the country if Hillary beat McCain in November. But now we're supposed to believe that this plan is about getting McCain elected?

Either Rush doesn't know what he's doing or he knows all too well that he's helping Hillary.

102 posted on 04/28/2008 1:58:59 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Shermy
“Operation very overrated”

Agreed.

Limbaugh's ego prolly rarely lets him admit to himself that flyover folks still have enough common sense and patriotism left to recognize and repudiate the marxist evil of this election with 'half (their collective) brain tied behind their back'.

Good job on that tshirt niche tho, Rush   

103 posted on 04/28/2008 1:59:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: browardchad
Rush waited until it didn't matter to endorse and as a result he left the field open to the McCain/Huckabee show. McCain won the nomination by plurality, nor majority, votes in almost all states, many times with less than 40% of the vote.

Most certainly NOT a ringing victory or indicative of Party appeal.

104 posted on 04/28/2008 1:59:25 PM PDT by TCats
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To: OeOeO
As far as Rush,remember he guaranteed she wouldn't run for the senate...

...and that the "conservatives" and "moderates" in upstate and the suburbs would never vote for her over Rick Lazio.

105 posted on 04/28/2008 2:00:35 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: henkster
If Hillary dropped out 2 months ago, none of the negatives about him would have seen the light of day

Exactly.
I have been saying that the only person who can defeat Hillary Clinton is Obama, and the only candidate who will attack Obama is Hillary.

Strange times, and this entire unparalleled opportunity is counterpointed by the liberal McCain, who may also be the only one who could possibly fail to take advantage of this entire mess that the democrat party has fallen into.

I fear for us right across the board.

106 posted on 04/28/2008 2:00:44 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: verklaring

“McCain not Rush will get either Obama or Hillary elected by beating up on conservatives, like the N.C. republicans.”

I guarantee you if Hillary or Obama loses, Rush will take the credit.


107 posted on 04/28/2008 2:01:06 PM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Like other posters, I respectfully disagree.

First, this comes from the AP, which has been liberally-biased for centuries (it seems).

Second, as others have pointed out, her negatives are bad enough. She steals this from Obama and her negatives will go to at least 75%.

Third, the Clintons have worn out their welcome. They've never been universally adored. Only feared.

108 posted on 04/28/2008 2:01:05 PM PDT by kromike
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
If this is an example of the brain power of the average "Operation Chaos" Freeper I think we can see why they don't realize what they're doing to our country.

It is hilarious to see all you Rush haters try to tell us how you much more intelligent than Rush and his 20,000,000 listeners you are.

What have you done to have 20,000,000 people listen to you. Will your superior intelligence change elections?

109 posted on 04/28/2008 2:01:40 PM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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To: saminfl

You have to have a certain kind of voice to be on the radio, which I don’t have. Also, talking constantly tires me out. Rush is a gifted broadcaster, but there are lots of idiots who have decent voices and are longwinded. Rush is intelligent. He’s either just mistaken about this or he actually wants the good ole days back when he had books on the bestseller list during the Clinton years.


110 posted on 04/28/2008 2:02:19 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: murron

I agree with you 100%, I live in Northwest Indiana but will vote like I always have, in the Republican primary on May 6, 2008.


111 posted on 04/28/2008 2:02:32 PM PDT by right turn at the light
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

OK NOW VOTE OBAMA


112 posted on 04/28/2008 2:02:44 PM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: TCats

October 15, 2005. Maybe I am right.


113 posted on 04/28/2008 2:03:15 PM PDT by saminfl (,/i)
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To: Tex Pete

...she would be far less damaging to our country than Mr. Marxism.

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What!? How quickly we forget! Do you really think it would be better to have the Clintons with all of their shady global contacts back in the position of selling more national secrets to the Chinese again? Hillary is no less a socialist; she’s just better at hiding it. She and Bill have been lying a lot longer that Obummer. Don’t be fooled.

Obummer’s tenure would be puncuated by many mistakes, but it is more likely that wiser heads could steer him in the right direction. The arrogance of the Clintons precludes such a thing.


114 posted on 04/28/2008 2:03:43 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Tagline is in the shop -- being retooled as a hybrid.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This has nothing to do with Rush. It has everything to do with McCain attacking Republicans for daring to tell the truth about the Democrats. McLame seems much more comfortable attacking Republicans than Democrats.

Whatever Republican support he had coming back to him were turned away by his attack on the NC GOP.


115 posted on 04/28/2008 2:03:48 PM PDT by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Yep. Exactly right. But the dead-brained here who need dailyorders from their superior masters who do their thinking will rip you to shreds for saying that. You’ll just be ‘jealous of Rush’ or ‘can’t see his brilliance’. Same with smirking crooked-mouth Ingraham, Hannity, Coulter, etc; ALL the KAOS talking heads. Or you’ll be told to ‘crawl under the bed and hide until November’s over’, since we all know The Clintons can’t POSSIBLY win the WH again with all their baggage.


116 posted on 04/28/2008 2:04:13 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: sam_paine
Don't get so loose with your spelling or we'll lose the language AND the election. =)

Thanks, whenever I see that I get the Loose Lose Blues.

117 posted on 04/28/2008 2:04:13 PM PDT by OeOeO (Sic Transit Gloria Mundi... Gloria get me a beer,and hurry..)
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To: kittymyrib

McCain is a flop of a candidate, just as the Democrats and “Independents” planned he would be when they voted for him in the primaries.

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Amen to that! And to everything else you said.


118 posted on 04/28/2008 2:05:22 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Tagline is in the shop -- being retooled as a hybrid.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

“What evidence do you have that Obama could beat McCain in places like NH, OH, PA, and so on?”

I am in ultra-conservative central Texas, on the western edge of Fort Hood. My business is such that I interact with customers for about an hour at a time all day long. Even among black members of the military, Barack Obama is very, very popular. He is also popular among military wives.

Hillary is very unpopular. People in the military remember that Bill Clinton gutted the armed forces.

Do not underestimate Obama.

And, again, Hillary would not be nearly as detrimental to our country as the Marxist Obama.


119 posted on 04/28/2008 2:06:02 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: TCats; browardchad
Rush waited until it didn't matter to endorse and as a result he left the field open to the McCain/Huckabee show.

Good point. I'm not going to disagree that McCain is, in many ways, a flawed candidate. However, Rush has no right whatsoever to sit here now and bitch about McCain being the nominee. Back when we had some very qualified conservatives in the running (ex: Fred Thompson), Rush was sitting on his hands and even flirting with supporting Guiliani.

Finally, when it was all but too late, he grudgingly threw some support behind Romney... who's also a moderate.

If Rush doesn't want to support McCain, that's his right. But he ought to man up and stop trying to get Hillary elected by subterfuge.

120 posted on 04/28/2008 2:06:37 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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