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Boeing to outsource F-18 components to India
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Posted on 04/27/2008 11:11:18 PM PDT by Arjun

NEW DELHI: US civil and defence aerospace major Boeing has decided to outsource two critical components of the F-18 Super Hornet combat aircraft to India and the order for one of them could go to the Tatas.

Lt Gen Jeffrey B. Kohler, Boeing vice president for international strategy, told the India Strategic defence magazine that as a “responsible world player in aerospace, Boeing wanted a long-term, trusted partnership with India and that the orders for these two components are being placed now irrespective of whether or not the company wins the tender for 126 Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA).”

Both the components are made with sophisticated composite materials, appropriate technology for which will be transferred to India. Details are to be given later.

Mr Kohler said that one of these two fighter jet components could be outsourced to the Tatas, with which it had earlier tied up a $500 million agreement for titanium floor beams for the hot-selling new generation Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft that Air India has also ordered.

“The fact that we are going to outsource these components from India, including for the fighter jets that the US Navy will fly all over the world, indicates the trust we are going to place in our Indian partners,” Mr Kohler is quoted as saying by India Strategic magazine in its coming May issue.

The F-18 is one of the six combat jets being considered by the Indian Air Force (IAF) for its MRCA requirement, which could eventually reach 200 aircraft.

Significantly, Mr Kohler said, Boeing could also procure some components for its Apache Combat helicopter and the Heavy Lift Chinook CH 47 helicopter from India. But the viability of those projects is yet to be assessed. Asked if more F-18 components could also be outsourced from India, he said that if the Super Hornet was chosen by the Indian Air Force (IAF) in the MRCA competition, then it would be a natural progression as the Indian policy mandates transfer of technology and 50 percent offset requirement, which would mean investments in India for indigenous production of some components.

Boeing would facilitate export of these components, for its own use and for others. In this perspective, it was already encouraging its major Original Equipment Suppliers (OEMs) to interact with potential Indian manufacturers. He pointed out that Boeing had also signed a billion-dollar arrangement with Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) recently for outsourcing components and assisting it in acquiring technologies.

Notably, the Indian government is encouraging private industry to play a decisive role in building up the country’s defence industrial base. However, the state-run HAL will be the prime integrator for the aircraft, systems and weapons, irrespective of what is supplied by the foreign and Indian suppliers.

“All these agreements are irrespective of the F-18 deal, and as the Indian industry is maturing, these arrangements would be mutually beneficial,” Mr Kohler said.

So far, whatever was done or being done, was a Boeing initiative to “build trust and partnerships” with India, he said, adding that “besides being the world’s largest aerospace companies with advanced systems in every field, we are also socially and environmentally a responsible company. We will work here in accordance with the Indian laws.”

Asked to comment on doubts being expressed in certain quarters that the US could be an unreliable partner, Kohler, who was earlier director of the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) responsible for building cooperative ties with various countries, said that Washington was offering India unprecedented levels of technology. “Do you think we would be flying combat jets for the US armed forces with Indian components if we did not trust India?” he asked.

A fighter pilot himself, Mr Kohler had initiated the sale to India of Raytheon’s 12 Weapon Locating Radars (WLRs) for the Indian Army, the amphibious capability USS Trenton (now named INS Jalashwa) for the Indian Navy, and the six Lockheed Martin C 130J Super Hercules that the Indian Air Force (IAF) is buying for special operations.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; f18; india; navair; outsourcing
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To: Arjun

Lt Gen Jeffrey B. Kohler, Boeing vice president for international strategy, told the India .....


Since when do active duty Lieutenant Generals run Boeing. After one retires, their military rank is no longer front and center. That being said, it floors me that a former 3-star is making these kinds of bonehead decisions.


21 posted on 04/28/2008 3:41:27 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
US Air Force avionics technicians

Used to be all they did was test and check. The Marine Corps and the Navy used to get equipment that the air force had BCM'd, been sent to a Naval Depot, repaired at same and then put into the Marine Corps and Navy supply chains. When did they start component level troubleshooting and repair?

Seriously though, this is insane and a gross national security risk.

Without knowing the exact components that's quite an assumption to be making. What it actually is is the dangling of a carrot to an ally and potential customer.

22 posted on 04/28/2008 4:02:44 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Arjun
Nothing that does not meet quality standards will find itself eventually in the Super hornet. Boeing will make sure of it.

Another incorrect assumption.

Costly flaws found in Navy's top jet [Wing mechanism wear could halve flight hours]

23 posted on 04/28/2008 4:08:30 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Arjun
Ok, cancel the program.

When we buy small arms, part of the deal is that a major percentage of the deal be made 100% in house. But we can outsource a high tech fighter?

24 posted on 04/28/2008 4:16:08 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Arjun
Looking at the thread US may prohibit sale of Eurofighters to Saudi Arabia, where the US killed a UK Eurofighter sale because of US components in the Eurofighter, will India have the same rights on US F-18 sales to Pakistan?
25 posted on 04/28/2008 4:37:16 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Used to be all they did was test and check. The Marine Corps and the Navy used to get equipment that the air force had BCM'd, been sent to a Naval Depot, repaired at same and then put into the Marine Corps and Navy supply chains. When did they start component level troubleshooting and repair?

Warner Robbins ALC and Odgen ALC did most of our component level repair work on the F-111A related LRU modules that we were not authorized to repair at the shop. I also did all component level repair on the test stations themselves.

The Air Force did component level troubleshooting and repair for the four years I was in, Skippy.

26 posted on 04/28/2008 6:36:43 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Alright so they made a mistake. So what? That just shows that these things can happen even if you DONT outsource.
But by and large Boeing knows what its doing.


27 posted on 04/28/2008 11:25:40 AM PDT by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I doubt if f-18 will be offered to Pakistan.


28 posted on 04/28/2008 11:27:17 AM PDT by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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29 posted on 04/28/2008 1:57:06 PM PDT by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Arjun
I doubt if f-18 will be offered to Pakistan.

Maybe not this year, but if we sold F-16's to Pakistan, what makes you think we'll never want to sell the F-18?

30 posted on 04/29/2008 4:40:19 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: cva66snipe

“Our national defense needs should NEVER be outsourced period. Can’t we do at least one thing for ourselves anymore?”

I completely agree. And Boeing is hurting their appeal on the tanker deal by doing this.


31 posted on 04/30/2008 8:07:55 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp; cva66snipe

It sounds stupid, but that’s the only way countries will win future defense contracts. Even Croatia has huge offsets requirements for its future fighter programme which prospective bidders should meet.


32 posted on 05/03/2008 7:04:36 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: SauronOfMordor

There is a difference between outsourcing production of patented items and buying foreign technology. The Eurofighter features several US systems onboard-the US government has a right to veto the sale of those components.Can’t say the same about India or any other nation which will be just producing US systems-critical systems will still remain with home base.


33 posted on 05/03/2008 7:05:55 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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