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Feds fight threat of small-boat terror strikes (want a federal boat license_
CNN ^ | AP

Posted on 04/27/2008 7:05:54 PM PDT by GreaterSwiss

That is why the strategy is intended to create a layered defense that would create a national federal standard to operate a boat, Allen says.

The Coast Guard will work with states to establish minimum safety standards and ways to enforce the new rules. That may include requiring boat operators to have a copy of the safety certification on board with them and a piece of identification that links them to the certificate. That's important, security officials say, because currently there is no uniform requirement for pleasure boaters to have identification on board with them on the water.

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Safety is a tyrant's tool.

That is why the strategy is intended to create a layered defense that would create a national federal standard to operate a boat, Allen says.

1 posted on 04/27/2008 7:05:55 PM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: demoskowitz

Government control and yet more government control. ;-(


2 posted on 04/27/2008 7:13:31 PM PDT by doc1019 (Acts 16:31, Romans 10:13 ... nuff said.)
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To: demoskowitz

Another brick in the wall.

Federal boat registration/licensing will be as effective against terrorism as gun control is effective in stopping murder in Chicago.

But they’ll have a nifty database of citizens and their boats, should there be a need for a new federal tax or class of citizens who can’t own boats.

Hey, maybe putting metal detectors at Boston airports would stop hijackers from flying into buildings!


3 posted on 04/27/2008 7:14:54 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: demoskowitz
So... my '73 Skeeter Hawk bass boat with '74 Evinrude is now a terrorist threat?

How about my canoe, then...?

4 posted on 04/27/2008 7:16:11 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: demoskowitz
Cool. Maybe it will eventually be yet anther federal felony to be caught in a small boat without your PAPERS.
5 posted on 04/27/2008 7:18:51 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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To: demoskowitz

Ve vant to zee your papers!


6 posted on 04/27/2008 7:21:06 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: demoskowitz

Why do we bother with States anymore? I mean what’s the point?


7 posted on 04/27/2008 7:26:02 PM PDT by live+let_live
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To: demoskowitz
Terrorist threat:


9 posted on 04/27/2008 7:35:40 PM PDT by groanup (Politics, dog ticks, wood ticks and bed ticks. They're all parasites.)
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To: demoskowitz
Domestic enemies:


10 posted on 04/27/2008 7:37:33 PM PDT by groanup (Politics, dog ticks, wood ticks and bed ticks. They're all parasites.)
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To: TXnMA

Bin Laden’s had his eye on my ‘63 Sears runabout for some time.


11 posted on 04/27/2008 7:39:47 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: DBrow

Another of the thousand cuts to freedom


12 posted on 04/27/2008 7:44:46 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: demoskowitz
How dare anyone question what beloved leaders want to do for own on good in the name of the W.O.T. The W.O.T. excuse is wearing very, very, thin. Bush and his all to eager puppet lackeys use it as their reason for virtually everything now. Of course if you are against boat registration or licensing of boat operators you are obviously for the terrorist /sarcasm But wait there's hope! No there isn't. Three Big Goverment shills just as bad as he are trying to win his office this November. The three will soon be two. But the two will still be big goverment rights and freedoms shreading liberals.

The Coast Guard has domain over all navivgational waterways. That means rivers that have dams with locks etc. Most states if not all have a boat registration requirement on all motor driven boats. What next a U.S. license plate on our cars? Der all seeing Orfice of Homeland Insecurity will keep the records no doubt. G.W. Bush has given the DEMs more power and tools to use against us than Al Gore could have ever hoped for in a 16 year term. He has been the worse GOP POTUS second to none on goverment expansion including his own father who is second and Ford third.

13 posted on 04/27/2008 7:48:44 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: demoskowitz

The only proposal I see is for a new bureaucracy with which checks & credit cards will be the preferred payment.


14 posted on 04/27/2008 7:49:37 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Nailbiter

Do these federal idiots really think some terrorist is going to comply with this paperwork. Where do they find these people?


15 posted on 04/27/2008 7:50:06 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: demoskowitz

This federal boat license proposal is just stupid. Not only a waste of time and money, but just a distraction from the real issues of security that threaten this country.

I speak from firsthand knowledge and experience when I say that this ship has already sailed - American pleasure boaters have no freedom from government harassment on US waterways.

The coast guard already has carte blanche to board any vessel in US waters - and for any reason. Oh - no good reason? Then how about a “safety inspection” - which is the preferred rationale for this burgeoning arm of our manifest tyranny.


16 posted on 04/27/2008 7:53:08 PM PDT by citizenK
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To: demoskowitz
How about instead we mandate an Islam license? Islam is more dangerous than boating.
17 posted on 04/27/2008 7:57:10 PM PDT by nitzy (Take your pick: Globalism OR Limited Government)
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To: demoskowitz
America is dead. Hope you all like the country you got because you weren't willing work against it, on election campaigns and otherwise.

A whole lot of Germans learned, and died learning, that lesson.

18 posted on 04/27/2008 7:57:57 PM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters!)
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To: Roklok

They do not care about terrorist or criminals.
They are about denying freedom to citizens.
Put another way, they are trying to make all citizens criminals.
Easier to control.
Look at gun control.
I would go on, but would take more time and energy than I have at this point.
If you have not read “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross, I suggest you do.


19 posted on 04/27/2008 7:59:40 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: cva66snipe
“The Coast Guard has domain over all navivgational waterways. That means rivers that have dams with locks etc.”

Navigable waters is now defined as any waterway that is connected to the ocean and which can float a canoe during the highest regular water mark during a normal year.

This is by court precedent for the EPA, I believe, so Coast Guard jurisdiction may not go so far.

Its been a long time since I was taught that, but I believe that it is essentially correct.

20 posted on 04/27/2008 8:05:06 PM PDT by marktwain
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