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Hillary Clinton risks rift in Democrats by ‘cheating’ black voters
Timesonline.com ^ | April 27th, 2008 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 04/27/2008 12:06:28 PM PDT by The_Republican

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1 posted on 04/27/2008 12:06:29 PM PDT by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican
The contest began as an exciting, inspirational battle between two widely respected candidates

Funny, I don't remember that contest at all.

2 posted on 04/27/2008 12:10:52 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: The_Republican

Hitlery will hang on through the primaries. Then Pelosi and Dean will try to reach an agreement between the two candidates. The goal is to have this settled before the convention.


3 posted on 04/27/2008 12:11:54 PM PDT by firebrand
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Funny how the “Black leaders” still consider black Americans as a group to be bought or negotiated with. They would certainly have more respect in America if they behaved like stand-up AMERICANS, sans color, and not racial separatists.

But the Jesses, the Als, the Rev. Wrights of America don’t want that, and niether do the Dim leaders. Gotta keep them VICTIMIZED, and “on the plantation”, to keep those votes, power and money coming in.

One of these days, I think that black Americans will wise up, get tired of being played as patsies and pawns, tell the Dims to go screw themselves, and become INDEPENDENT, RESPECTABLE AMERICANS free of victimization and racism. They will prosper GREATLY when they do.


4 posted on 04/27/2008 12:17:06 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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Actually, whites are the LEAST race conscious voters in America. Blacks have been elected in predominantly — and in some instances overwhelimgly — white cities and states, even when the opponent was white. Think Tom Bradley in Los Angeles, Doug Wilder in Virginia, David Dinkins in New York, Barak Obama in Illinois, just to name a few. Conversely, in predominant and majority black cities (they are not a majority in any state, though they are in Washington, D.C.) never has a white been elected over a black.


5 posted on 04/27/2008 12:17:14 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: firebrand

Clinton’s don’t care about anything but themselves - she’s staying in until the convention - do or die! And I would bet even money that she’ll call in every FBI file from every last superdelegate and threaten their political careers unless they vote for her. I think Obama is done.


6 posted on 04/27/2008 12:22:43 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: firebrand

“The goal is to have this settled before the convention.”

I agree that is the goal. The question is, is it a reality? I don’t know. There is a lot of bad blood developing among the Dims, which is the natural consequence of a party that lives and dies by identity politics.


7 posted on 04/27/2008 12:27:20 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: The_Republican

Toni Morrison’s stupid and ill-considered anointment of Bill Clinton as “the first black President” was an insult to all decent Americans.


8 posted on 04/27/2008 12:27:36 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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...and to her own intelligence.


9 posted on 04/27/2008 12:28:52 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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Then Pelosi and Dean will try to reach an agreement between the two candidates. The goal is to have this settled before the convention.

Would anyone care to predict "how" this will be settled? I don't think either would except the VP spot behind the other one. I cannot imagine how the Dems will get out of this one.

Everyone keeps saying it will be settled; but how?
10 posted on 04/27/2008 12:35:54 PM PDT by no dems (The Democrats destroying each other gives me moments of pleasureable reflections.)
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“We’ll be playing with fire if we interfere with the voters’ choice,”

what a ridiculous statement... Hillary has actually received more votes than Obama overall... so which voters are the ones being cheated?

11 posted on 04/27/2008 12:36:21 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: EagleUSA
Funny how the “Black leaders” still consider black Americans as a group to be bought or negotiated with. They would certainly have more respect in America if they behaved like stand-up AMERICANS, sans color, and not racial separatists.

But the Jesses, the Als, the Rev. Wrights of America don’t want that, and niether do the Dim leaders. Gotta keep them VICTIMIZED, and “on the plantation”, to keep those votes, power and money coming in.

One of these days, I think that black Americans will wise up, get tired of being played as patsies and pawns, tell the Dims to go screw themselves, and become INDEPENDENT, RESPECTABLE AMERICANS free of victimization and racism. They will prosper GREATLY when they do.


Wow EagleUSA, that was too doggone good not to repeat it.
12 posted on 04/27/2008 12:40:17 PM PDT by no dems (The Democrats destroying each other gives me moments of pleasureable reflections.)
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To: EagleUSA
"Funny how the “Black leaders” still consider black Americans as a group to be bought or negotiated with."

The Palestinians have the precise same mentality.

Such groups are disgusting and dangerous because they make threats of violence and widespread destruction if their needs are not met.

And all this while claiming to be "religious" people.


13 posted on 04/27/2008 12:54:37 PM PDT by Prole ("American Citizens should not fear the government. The government should fear American Citizens.")
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“His whole glamour was based on the idea that we did not know him,” Steele observed. “I’ve always regarded Obama as a ‘bargainer’ – someone who made whites very comfortable – and that is what accounted for his initial success.

Obama has said as much about himself in his own book!

14 posted on 04/27/2008 1:19:02 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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>> Then Pelosi and Dean will try to reach an agreement between the two candidates. The goal is to have this settled before the convention.

> Would anyone care to predict "how" this will be settled? I don't think either would except the VP spot behind the other one. I cannot imagine how the Dems will get out of this one. Everyone keeps saying it will be settled; but how?

One takes VP. Look, no matter how much posturing is going on now, it's perfectly clear that Clinton/Obama would be an acceptable compromise to the Dems. Obama/Clinton is harder to imagine, but still not impossible.

I predict Clinton/Obama.

Just watch -- the Dems will have a dream ticket, all will be forgiven, and the Dem voters will hand them a landslide.

Meanwhile, over at the GOP, how many "I swear I'll never vote for McCain" folks are going to fold, swallow their pride, and vote for him because he's got an "(R)" next to him? MOST OF 'EM, that's how many.

This is politics. Unless one of the two Dems literally dies before November, we will see that dream ticket or I'll eat my hat.

15 posted on 04/27/2008 1:54:58 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: The_Republican

LOL. The irony of it all.


16 posted on 04/27/2008 1:56:36 PM PDT by kabar
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To: dayglored

I think so too sometimes. However, Obama has been attacked in a manner, from Muslim, to Bigot, to anti-semetic, to terrorist sympathizer, to unpatriotic, that any man with even an iota of self-respect could accept their invitation now.

Unless he is a low life like Sharpton and Jackson, who would sell their mothers if they could get few bucks, I don’t see why he would accept it.


17 posted on 04/27/2008 2:24:34 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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> Unless he is a low life like Sharpton and Jackson, who would sell their mothers if they could get few bucks, I don’t see why he would accept it.

And you think he is NOT such a low-life politician... WHY?

He craves power. He will go for it, if it is offered, and the alternative is not having power.

He might wait four/eight years. But I bet not. His socialist shrew of a wife claimed it's "now or never"; she might mean it.

18 posted on 04/27/2008 2:52:01 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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Sharpton and Jackson are race-based extortionist and use it as a Hammer to make money and get few favors. Obama on the other hand, if he could would avoid race based discussion all together, he would.

Hillary’s campaign injected race because they saw that as their last hope. Obama doesn’t come across as hater to me. Especially since the most vicious accusations has been made against him and he still doesn’t resort to same tactics. People like that do not profile as Hitler or Saddam. Hillary has lot more in common with those two Dictators than Obama. She I am sure dreams of a world where every Conservative has been locked up or killed. Perhaps a GIANT ranch like the one in Waco, and most of mankinds’ problems will be solved in her view.

There is no politician who runs for office who doesn’t crave power. That is not ncessarily a flaw.

The fact I put him above Sharpton/Jackson/Hillary is the reason I don’t expect him to accept VP candidacy if the nomination is taken away from him.


19 posted on 04/27/2008 3:01:31 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: Prole

Such groups are disgusting and dangerous because they make threats of violence and widespread destruction if their needs are not met.

And all this while claiming to be “religious” people.
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Yeah, just spend a little time listening to the CONGERSSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS. They sound like the Black Pathers....


20 posted on 04/27/2008 6:15:10 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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