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Life in the real world (The evils of polygamy)
The Washington Times ^ | 04/25/2008 | Pete Vere

Posted on 04/25/2008 2:27:00 PM PDT by JRochelle

The raid this month on a polygamist sect's Texas ranch left more than 400 children from the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in state custody.

Under any circumstances, children have trouble adjusting to a world in which their parents suddenly are gone. But in this case, these children likely will be put in an outside world that they have been raised to see as evil.

To better understand their plight, The Washington Times spoke with three former members of the FLDS as well as Rowenna Erickson, a founding member of Tapestry Against Polygamy (Polygamy.org).

The Utah-based organization supports children and vulnerable adults seeking to leave the polygamous lifestyle.

"Polygamy is one big male excuse" for sex, Mrs. Erickson told The Times, using graphic language.

She grew up in the Latter-day Church of Christ, a polygamous Mormon sect also known as the Kingston family. At age 20, she became the second wife of her older sister's husband; the couple bore eight children together.

"My children and I lived in dire poverty in a two-and-a-half bedroom house," Mrs. Erickson said.

Her husband lived separately from the family, and she was prohibited from disclosing their true relationship to others — including to the couple's own children — so as not to raise the suspicion of the civil authorities.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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Yet the most haunting aspect of departing the FLDS was the perpetual feeling that she would be condemned to hell for having rejected polygamy.

This article proves once again that polygamy is straight from the pits of hell.

1 posted on 04/25/2008 2:27:00 PM PDT by JRochelle
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FIP Ping


2 posted on 04/25/2008 2:29:17 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: JRochelle

3 posted on 04/25/2008 2:30:00 PM PDT by Godzilla (How do I set a laser printer to stun?)
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To: JRochelle

I don’t see what is in it for the guys? Did people find any of those women atractive? My Gooness. It was the biggest does of anti-viagra one could imagine. But that’s just me.


4 posted on 04/25/2008 2:30:50 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: The_Republican

They’re infected with terminal i’dhitititis, with a side order of herekittykitty.


5 posted on 04/25/2008 2:37:02 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Godzilla

6 posted on 04/25/2008 2:38:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: JRochelle

I suspect that when the smoke clears, Texas will be nearly bankrupted. Instead of individual ‘due process’ all children were forcibly taken from their parents - not just those ‘at risk’, but every child. If the threat is to underage girls, then why are the boys taken? Why are children under 5 being forcibly separated from their mothers?

The phone call was a hoax, and this is the basis for everything that Texas has done. No evidence, no criminal complaints - but private property was seiged, women were forcibly separated from their children - at people somehow support this....

If the issue is polygamy, fine. Due process, and press charges. If the issue is statutory rape, fine; press charges and have trials. But wholesale abduction of 100% of all the children is simply wrong.

I find it somewhat hypocritical, that in today’s society polygamy is looked upon as a huge crime; but a man can father unlimited children with unlimited women out of wedlock; and that’s just fine. In fact, if the police were to storm the ghetto and remove the children from groups of single mothers, who have a child without any ceremony from a single sperm donor - there would be hell to pay.

People seem eager to allow the gov’t to side-step the law; when their emotions get the better of them. I wonder if they will be this tolerant when some bureaucrat decides to take a short-cut and take your children from you.


7 posted on 04/25/2008 2:45:45 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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I don’t see what is in it for the guys? Did people find any of those women atractive? My Gooness. It was the biggest does of anti-viagra one could imagine. But that’s just me.

Child molesters, don't care what they look like. The perverts are into because they are sick and they need to be put down.

8 posted on 04/25/2008 2:54:11 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: MHGinTN

But mine is pretty and has more periscopes....


9 posted on 04/25/2008 2:57:07 PM PDT by Godzilla (How do I set a laser printer to stun?)
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To: The_Republican

“Did people find any of those women attractive?”


Part of it might be that as far as men go, these aren’t the kind of men that have much of what it takes to measure very well in the invisible hierarchy of maleness, so they settle.

The other thing that contributes to the women’s lack of sex appeal (I think) is that the magic underwear conceals and restrains any natural body form and feminine movement so it makes them appear a little sterile, with none of that womanliness that stirs the juices.

Thirdly is that they seem empty inside, there is no spark of an individual emerging for your senses to respond to, in fact their flatness stirs a lot of negative feelings like pity, annoyance, revulsion and such, not the kind of feelings that leads a man to want a woman.


10 posted on 04/25/2008 3:01:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sons of Helaman- uniformed FLDS who enter houses without knocking and report novels, computers,TVs)
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This is a single address BTW. That was by choice of the F(lds).

The law (well tested in the courts) requires that ALL the minors be removed from such an address until the cause of the crime is eliminated.

Texas is at no risk of bankruptcy over any of this.

F(lds) is, however.

I hope their peanut gallery gets picked up too.

11 posted on 04/25/2008 3:02:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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The perverts are into because they are sick and they need to be put down.

I agree with that. I don't like the fact they are put in a safe area of prison. I truly resent that their victims didn't get mercy so why should they? I would toss them right into the general prison population. I don't want to pay for perverts in jail. I also don't like paying for murderers on death row, if there is 100% DNA or other solid proof that proves they did the crime I am for the death penalty.

12 posted on 04/25/2008 3:04:50 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (Out, damned spot............OUT .. Keep it sweet my arse!)
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To: Godzilla

Periscope envy?


13 posted on 04/25/2008 3:05:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Hodar

Here you go, Hodar. My post from another thread.


’ve noticed that on every thread, every possible argument against the state of Texas is thrown up multiple times. Ie,

The “illegal” search warrant argument
The inner city underage pregancies argument
The ripping the babies away from their mothers argument
The “all religions are in danger” argument
The “you are tarring all Mormons with the FLDS brush” argument
The “file charges if you think there’s rape” argument
The “remove the fathers instead of the children” argument
The “hundred years ago, everyone got married at 14” argument
The “All over the world, polygamy is legal” argument

And on and on.


You and others keep bring up the same arguments from thread to thread, no matter how many times they have been addressed, answered, shown to be wrong, whatever.

I recommend reading the responses and coming up with something new, but hey! it’s a free country.


14 posted on 04/25/2008 3:07:26 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: JRochelle

Blame it all on polygamy? There’s more to the issue than that simple-minded approach.


15 posted on 04/25/2008 3:08:22 PM PDT by Rudder (Klinton-Kool-Aid FReepers prefer spectacle over victory.)
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To: The_Republican

It’s about power and control, as well as multiple presumably disease-free sex partners.


16 posted on 04/25/2008 3:14:05 PM PDT by skr (How majestic is Thy Name, O Lord, and how mighty are Thy Works!)
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I don’t see what is in it for the guys? Did people find any of those women atractive? My Gooness. It was the biggest does of anti-viagra one could imagine. But that’s just me.

I think that this sort of thing is clearly for people who suffer from being extremely emotionally immature and/or are mentally damaged in some way.

The men can't relate to normal women on normal terms, and have to either prey on children or women who have no other choice, having been raised in this crippling environment.

And the women are so mentally stunted that they are incapable of saying no to anything, including their own abuse or the abuse of their children.

If it is known by it's fruits, the FLDS is a rotten tree all the way down to the very roots.

At least some of the women are finally changing their tunes and are going to family violence shelters rather than return to the men who have abused their children. There is an article in the Houston Chronicle today about this very subject. (pops)

17 posted on 04/25/2008 3:15:19 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Enosh

Too much! ROTFL, or as some would say FOTFL


18 posted on 04/25/2008 3:17:10 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: MHGinTN
Periscope envy?


19 posted on 04/25/2008 3:17:34 PM PDT by Godzilla (How do I set a laser printer to stun?)
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To: Judith Anne

Just think ‘talking points’.

I believe someone,on another thread, has already pointed out there is a website where one can go to get the latest ‘talking points’. A website sponsored by the ...........FLDS.


20 posted on 04/25/2008 3:18:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all posters)
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