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McCain May Have Better Chance Vs. Obama, Not Clinton, In Nov.
Copyright 2000-2008 Investor's Business Daily, Inc. ^ | Posted 4/23/2008 | BY SEAN HIGGINS

Posted on 04/24/2008 10:58:49 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Question Liberal Authority
McCain won't attack Obama. McCain won't dig up dirt on Obama. McCain won't even "allow" Republicans to attack Obama.

What a master stategerist he is, eh what?

Is it too late to vote for Pat Paulsen?

41 posted on 04/24/2008 1:02:12 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
At this point, however, the mission as he described it originally is accomplished. Hillary isn't dropping out.

That's not the mission. The mission is to create chaos. We don't want Hillary to be 200 delegates behind refusing to concede an obvious defeat. We want the Delegate count to be so close that the Super Delegates have a Sophie's Choice. They have to throw someone under the bus, and they have to pull the trigger, and they have to be on record as being the ones who did it.

If Obama had the popular vote AND the delegate count then it would be easy to tell Hillary "sorry. This wasn't your year." But Hillary has the popular vote and Obama has the delegates, and it's real real close if you count Michigan and Florida, which the dems HAVE to take in November.

Whichever Dem loses the nomination, the Democrat Party itself will have to pull the trigger, thanks, in part, to Operation Chaos.
42 posted on 04/24/2008 1:03:22 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The dems will not hand the nomination over to The Beast, otherwise it will mean riots in the big Northern city dem strongholds and the end of the dem party.

Hussein gets the nod and then has to face the code worded “Blue Collar Workers.”

McCain wins leaving the end result reminiscent of McGovern’s disaster.


43 posted on 04/24/2008 1:03:50 PM PDT by toddlintown (Censorship is alive and well.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"McCain May Have Better Chance Vs. Obama, Not Clinton, In Nov."

No Shiite, Sherlock. I and others here on this forum were saying this from the gitgo and were expressing our dismay with Rush from the beginning of Operation Chaos.

I finally gave up......the majority here seem to be unthinkingly supportive of Operation Chaos....and dissenters to this very dangerous strategery get the pipe.

Rush was at it again today......promoting Hillary and blasting McCain, although I must admit McCain deserved it today.

I would see McCain winning approximately 40 states out of 50 if Nobama is the Dem candidate.

Leni

44 posted on 04/24/2008 1:09:06 PM PDT by MinuteGal (I Love My Country More than I Dislike McCain !)
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To: proudpapa

From your lips to God’s ears.


45 posted on 04/24/2008 1:12:53 PM PDT by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

DOWNSCALE WHITES? I got an idea. For everyone who think they are smarter than Rush get your own radio show and give the minds full of mush the information they need. I think you’ll go the way of Air America.


46 posted on 04/24/2008 1:18:00 PM PDT by kempo (H)
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To: Little Bill

I’ve heard that theory; assuming that’s the point of OC, what is the intended result? Confusion? I don’t see that this approach can lead to any predictable results. For instance, in PA, if OC favored a Hillary win in order to maintain the race to Denver, what, if anything, could Obamabots do to counter it? In other words, what is the expected reaction when OC is in effect? Assuming it really gets in Dems heads, one would think the reaction would be greater numbers of Hill and Obama votes. I think just pumping up Hillary (unpleasant image) and battering Obama would be effective enough, but registration jumping (or the mere rumor of that) is as likely to be counterproductive.


47 posted on 04/24/2008 1:22:38 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Too bad Rush and his acolytes are doing their damndest to throw the nomination to the Hildebeast.

You beat me to it. elpresidentia clinton is going to owe Rush and Sean big time if she takes the oval office. Wonder if she'll give Rush discount for a night or two in the Lincoln Bedroom?

48 posted on 04/24/2008 1:38:39 PM PDT by deuteronlmy232 (Wanna win the war? Read 1 Samuel thru 2 Chronicles. Killem all let GOD sortem out.)
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To: MinuteGal
No Shiite, Sherlock...

Actually, I've been with you guys from the beginning on this and have even wondered if Rush wasn't trying to throw the whole election to the 'Beast.

I've been trying to take him at his word that he wasn't. However, with every day it becomes more likely that he really wants Hillary to get the nomination and even the Presidency.

49 posted on 04/24/2008 1:39:03 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Ilya Mourometz
I fail to see why Rush supporters and haters around here are so convinced that OC has had anything whatsoever to do with this. In a few heavy republican counties, maybe a few hundred Rs switched registration to D. It is a lead pipe cinch that the total number of registration jumpers is statistically insignificant compared to the difference in voting patterns that would have occurred without OC.

Rush is seeking attention and trying to establish relevancy. He had his 15 minutes when he was the water boy for Newt & Contract With America but ever since, he's been just a radio talk show host.

McCain certainly is not, at least publicly, kissing up to Rush nor was any other Republican candidate during the primaries. Rush's ego craves attention and every day, regardless what controversy arises in the Democrat primary, Rush is Johnny-on-the-spot claiming credit on behalf of Operation Chaos.

He's just like the rooster who thought that his crowing made the sun rise!!!

50 posted on 04/24/2008 1:41:54 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Califreak

“Much better than “Straight Talk Express”, AKA I’ll Pee On Your Leg And Tell You It’s Raining.”

I kinda like the “B.S. Express.”


51 posted on 04/24/2008 1:46:20 PM PDT by Grunthor (McCain 2008 -Bite the pillow. - roamer_1)
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To: Ilya Mourometz
Now if I were manipulating an election and wanted to have a certain candidate win. I would support the weaker candidate on the opposition to keep it close. The leader on the other side has to spend Money and Reputation to win.

Politics is like religion, once your god looses a an election to a superior god you get pissed off and either stay home or support another god. I find the fact that Rush can sow doubt among the heathens is very funny.

Rush is a commentator, you can't quantify what he expouses and what his listeners do! This is the interesting part, The Fog of War.

52 posted on 04/24/2008 1:54:44 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Grunthor

Yeah, that one is perfect.


53 posted on 04/24/2008 2:09:18 PM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: Question Liberal Authority

I actually agree with all that, But It Is Done.

Do not over play the hand of the Chaos strategy. Its work is done. Do not fritter away the victory.

It is now time to erase her and let Obama fail to undo all the damage she did to him and McCain wins.

If she wins, she becomes the historical comeback figure. No. Just erase her now. She has fatally weakened Obama by forcing him leftward. Take no more risks with her.


54 posted on 04/24/2008 2:20:07 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen
I actually agree with all that, But It Is Done.

No, it's not. Operation Chaos will not be over until at least November, 2008. Possibly, it won't be over until November, 2016. In fact, it might not be over for 100 years.

If it had zero effect, then what's the problem with continuing? If it had some effect, then what's the point of stopping?
55 posted on 04/24/2008 3:15:49 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
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To: zebrahead

I’m telling you right now-I live in Ohio, and the slimeball Clintons are ADORED here, by idiots who remember the good financial times of the 90s. This state is in a near depression, and they think if they get a third term for Bill we’ll go back to the days of milk and honey. The unions love him, even though he shoved NAFTA through with a lame-duck cRAT congress (never mentioned here). Obama could never win the state. The ‘conservatives’ who think they’re clever by keeping these bastards alive are playing with fire, and they’re going to be sorry if they grab the nomination. This state will be in their pocket, especially now that we have all cRats in charge in the big state offices, thanks to Taft, the worst and most arrogant (and most socially and fiscally liberal , regardless of party)p**ck we ever had for governor.


56 posted on 04/24/2008 3:15:59 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

If Rush dropped Operation Chaos right now, I might agree with you.

At this point, however, the mission as he described it originally is accomplished. Hillary isn’t dropping out.


And Limbaugh isn’t stopping either, because he has more CHAOS hats, coffee mugs, and T-Shirts to sell.


57 posted on 04/24/2008 3:18:51 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: Ilya Mourometz; Behind Liberal Lines

Except It ISN’T just Limbaugh. It’s Coulter, Hannity, Ingraham, Levine, and more that are promoting this crap. Hannity doesn’t even use his “stop Hillary Express” opener any more-he used that for what-2 years? Haven’t heard it for 2 months. You cannot tell me the MILLIONS of people who listen to/read these people on a daily basis weren’t responsible for her taking at MINIMUM-TEXAS, which is where her ‘comeback kid’ status started. The Clintons had been expected to win Ohio, but I think they gave her a wider margin here. At any rate, it made me sick to my stomach that Texans who didn’t remember, or didn’t care, about WACO, were the ones who saved them. Of course it’s having an effect. Combine all those listeners/followers. Plus FOX news now has Hillary, Mcaullife, and all their syncophants comingon to campaign(remember when they shunned FOX? Now they’re buddies).brag while it’s non-stop Bash Obama for 2 hours on O’Reilley and Hannity & Colmes.


58 posted on 04/24/2008 3:31:07 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: MinuteGal

I’ve been pissing into the wind here since the KAOS crap started too. I’m on your side.


59 posted on 04/24/2008 3:55:47 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (Using Hillary to nip Obama's heels is like beating a dead horse with an armed nuclear bomb.)
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To: bill1952
Eh, "no back without a knife in it."

This one got my back, in a very personal way. In spite of the anger, I doubt I can bring myself, morally, to contribute or vote for a Democrat, but neither can I, at this moment in time, vote for McCain.

What a sad impasse we've come to, and I don't expect it to get any better before November.

60 posted on 04/24/2008 4:37:37 PM PDT by browardchad
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