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McCain May Have Better Chance Vs. Obama, Not Clinton, In Nov.
Copyright 2000-2008 Investor's Business Daily, Inc. ^
| Posted 4/23/2008
| BY SEAN HIGGINS
Posted on 04/24/2008 10:58:49 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
Republicans once feared Obama as a uniquely attractive candidate who could inspire the party base while winning over moderates and independents. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., was thought too divisive.
That was before Obama's long struggle to get his party's nomination. While he retains the lead in votes and pledged delegates, losses in key states like Pennsylvania and Ohio have cost him momentum.
Controversies such as the caustic remarks of Obama's former pastor, and the senator's reference to small-town voters as "bitter" have hurt, too.
Obama's support seems increasingly concentrated among African-Americans and educated liberals.
Then there's Clinton's tenacity despite being written off repeatedly. Her pluck suggests that her family can't be underestimated, especially in a campaign and the McCain people know it.
The conservative National Review said in an online editorial that Clinton's fans see her as better at "reaching the downscale whites, union members, Catholics and Hispanics the party will need to win in November. It is a plausible argument."
McCain seems to fair better against Obama than Clinton in key battleground states.
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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; limbaugh; mccain; rush
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I would prefer to face Obama.
However the prospect of facing Hillary without strong support from the black community also has a lot of appeal.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:05:52 PM PDT
by
proudpapa
(May God Bless Our Troops.)
To: gridlock
My guy/gal lost, so Im going to vote for John McCain! That is the only way McCain can win. Imagine the bumper stickers!
Vote McCain: he doesn't suck as bad as the other guy!
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:18:34 PM PDT
by
bill1952
(I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
To: browardchad
In 2000 I predicted a close Florida win for Bush.
In 04 I strongly predicted right here on FR a strong, solid Florida win for Bush.
I’m not making any predictions for Florida now.
I certainly will not vote for either of the liberals that are poised to take their respective party’s nominations.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:23:13 PM PDT
by
bill1952
(I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
To: johnthebaptistmoore
To: johnthebaptistmoore
as long as we can appoint or stall SCOTUS justices.
not having a majority anywhere will kill us and the U.S.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Yes Mccain would have an easier time with barack mcgovern, but either way it will be like a pro boxer fighting a 12 year old of a 14 year old.
Those who think Rush is “throwing the election to ‘hildabeast’” obviously have little understanding of how the rat primary system works.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:31:04 PM PDT
by
jmaroneps37
(Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Too bad Rush and his acolytes are doing their damndest to throw the nomination to the Hildebeast.
No, they're not. They're doing their damnedest to extend the fight so that Democrats keep bloodying each other up.
McCain won't attack Obama. McCain won't dig up dirt on Obama. McCain won't even "allow" Republicans to attack Obama.
If any Republicans attack Obama, the media won't report the substance - just the fact that Obama was attacked, and then they'll make it sound like a racially motivated lynch mob.
Whatever Hillary digs up is all we get. If Obama is derailed in the general election, it is only because of the mis-steps that Hillary forced Obama into. If Hillary is derailed in November, it will be due to Democrat disgust at Hillary.
If McCain beats anyone in November, it will be because of the Uncivil War, enabled in part by Operation Chaos.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:32:49 PM PDT
by
Question Liberal Authority
(There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
And if Obama is paired WITH Hillary? She may settle for being a heartbeat away from the presidency over another 4 years in the Senate.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:33:22 PM PDT
by
weegee
(Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
To: Question Liberal Authority
To: Owen
The Truth is Independent Moderates win elections. She is painting herself more moderate than Obama and will thus be able to take Independent Moderate votes from the independent maverick McCain.
Except that 3 weeks ago, Obama WAS the "independent maverick" and now he's the inexperienced, elitist politician. That would not have happened if Hillary wasn't in the race.
If Hillary wins the nomination, she will have to get the Dems to seat Michigan and Florida, and she will have to get the Super Delegates to throw Obama under the bus.
If Obama wins the nomination, he will have to ignore the existence of Florida and Michigan, and he will have to get the super delegates to throw Hillary under the bus.
All of that is 10,000,000% more damaging to the Democrat nominee than ANYTHING John McCain has up his sleeve.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:37:11 PM PDT
by
Question Liberal Authority
(There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
To: Jay777
If Hillary starts to get close, then the strategy changes and Rush tells everyone to vote Obama.See my post No. 17.
At this point, Hillary is "close." She is counting on momentum to get the nomination.
Time for Rush, if he really wants to prolong the chaos, the swing things back to Obama for a while.
To: Dante3
I believe that. McCain is a Democrat
If so, he's a Scoop Jackson type Democrat, which is a heck of a lot better than a Che Guevara or Karl Marx.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:40:06 PM PDT
by
Question Liberal Authority
(There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
To: Behind Liberal Lines
I was watching CNN and his tour is now called the “It’s Time For Action Tour”.
Much better than “Straight Talk Express”, AKA I’ll Pee On Your Leg And Tell You It’s Raining. I wonder if the bus has been renamed the “Actionmobile”?
I can’t wait until this circus is finally over.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:44:17 PM PDT
by
Califreak
(Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
To: Ilya Mourometz
Operation Chaos serves a purpose even without “impacting” the vote tallies.
Both candidates want every vote they can get. When they campaigned in Texas, both candidates were buying ads trying to get the slim number of liberal listeners of conservative talk radio as well as “crossover votes” from Republicans-as-Democrats regardless of their motives for supporting their candidate.
They are spending money. Money they could otherwise use in the general election, by having to drag out this race.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:45:14 PM PDT
by
weegee
(Vote Obama 2008 for a bitter America.)
To: weegee
And if Obama is paired WITH Hillary?
The elitist, inexperienced Obama with the lying, untrustworthy Hillary? McCain might have a chance.
Two months ago it would have been the Audacious Messianic Obama with the Smartest Woman In The World, Living History Hillary.
Two months ago, libs were creaming themselves over the possibility of a "dream ticket". Now, they'll hold their nose to vote for a calculated political compromise. Big difference.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:48:43 PM PDT
by
Question Liberal Authority
(There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
To: Ilya Mourometz
I fail to see why Rush supporters and haters around here are so convinced that OC has had anything whatsoever to do with this.
It doesn't matter if it did have anything to do with it. The fact is, it's in the Dem's heads now.
How long did we hear about the supposed "whisper campaign" that undid John McCain in South Carolina 2000? John McCain was undone because his pet issue, Campaign Finance Reform, was less popular than George W Bush's pet issue, Tax Cuts.
Yet, we've been led to believe that it was some "whisper campaign". Yet, for every 1 person Bush got from a "whisper campaign", Hillary probably got 1,000 votes from Operation Chaos.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:53:20 PM PDT
by
Question Liberal Authority
(There's more proof that Operation Chaos is working than there is proof that Global Warming is real.)
To: alice_in_bubbaland
Every Democrat I know (which isnt many) hates Hillary and they will not vote for Obama. They told me that they are voting McCain. My 87 year old mother, who has never voted for a Republican presidential candidate is voting for John McCain in November.
A liberal accquantance of mine informs me that he will not vote for a woman or a n*****.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Come the second Wednesday in November, don't make the mistake of confusing an Obama loss with a McCain victory.
It won't be long after January 2009 before it will be painfully obvious how much the GOP has screwed the pooch. And THAT handwritting will appear on the wall in late 2011.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:56:34 PM PDT
by
LTCJ
(God Save the Constitution)
To: Ilya Mourometz
Politics and the Stock Market, as you and I both know, run on rumor and gossip, OC inserts that into the rat campaign.
It is not the the number of cross overs that count but the idea that there are hoards of cross overs that counts. With increased rat registrations and party changes who can sort out the true believers from the false.
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posted on
04/24/2008 12:59:03 PM PDT
by
Little Bill
(Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
To: zebrahead
I agree. Places like MO are total bellweather states on how the election will go. Whoever wins MO, wins the general.
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