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A recent study at Harvard also demonstrated that the cheap labor of illegal aliens clearly suppresses the wages of ALL working citizens, even skilled workers. Meanwhile, as we inexorably slide into Third World nationhood we're forced to support and finance the very Third World invaders who are destroying our society, economy and culture. We're paying taxes that are almost confiscatory and ever-increasing for the devastation brought by the drug cartel, bankrupt public school districts, insolvent hospitals, and incarceration costs for criminals. By the way, that $345 billion annual bill, which as the article indicates, does NOT include many other billions in costs, is over $3.5 TRILLION per decade alone. How many liberals who want to wave the white flag of surrender in Iraq and are whining about the costs of the war do you hear whining about the costs of the illegal invasion that they do so much to encourage? Of course, we all know that the liberals only worry about the war costs because they want that money so they can piss it away on some more of their domestic social programs!
1 posted on 04/24/2008 7:29:45 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

This is the real corporate welfare that we have tolerated for the last 20 years.


2 posted on 04/24/2008 7:34:12 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Another non-bitter Pennsylvanian)
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To: T.L.Sink
"Errr, Well Do Ya Believe Me Know? Huh? "

"That Sucking Sound You Hear is Mexico Sucking Billions of Dollars Outta The US!! -- I Tried To Warn Ya! "

3 posted on 04/24/2008 7:38:46 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: T.L.Sink

We had at least two candidates for president, Tancredo and Hunter, who talked about this and look where it got us. Someone here one day told me this issue is barely on the radar of “important issues”.

Personally, I’m mad enough to scream over this. We have been sold out.


4 posted on 04/24/2008 7:48:16 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: T.L.Sink; HiJinx; gubamyster

5 posted on 04/24/2008 8:03:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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TSN ping


7 posted on 04/24/2008 8:09:12 AM PDT by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: T.L.Sink

“U.S. prisons are also overwhelmed with illegals with 147,000 illegal aliens in local jails, 74,000 in state prisons and 46,000 in federal prisons. About 28% of all federal prisoners are illegal immigrants, and the cost to taxpayers is about $5.4 billion a year.”

Jeraldo will be crushed! He insists these people don’t do crime!


9 posted on 04/24/2008 8:13:10 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: T.L.Sink

Until we find a politician or more than one who will stand up for us, this is just pissing in the wind. NOBODY will defend our borders! I don’t get it! Do these idiots think illegals will carry the day for them? What will politicians do when the tax base dries up and most major American cities will be broke? This is already happening. If these rat bastards think raising taxes is the answer, Who’s going to be left to pay them?....


12 posted on 04/24/2008 8:19:31 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: T.L.Sink

Of course the simple answers are fiscal responsibilty and spending within your means but try and tell that to these asshat politicians! Eventually they are going to have to do it and forget about fricking global warming and other liberal whack left happy crap! GET to BASICS and run a LEAN government!!!


13 posted on 04/24/2008 8:24:14 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: T.L.Sink
A conspiracy called ‘compassion’. Some old man said they would bring US down from within... What he did not elaborate was the means and methods that would be unofficially but officially instituted....
16 posted on 04/24/2008 8:41:20 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: T.L.Sink

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


20 posted on 04/24/2008 9:24:47 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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Ping!


30 posted on 04/24/2008 12:51:05 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: T.L.Sink
These figures DON'T even INCLUDE the billions of dollars U.S. taxpayers dish out annually to provide free educations and medical care for those in the country illegally.

And that's not a small number.

When Rudy was running for the Republican nomination he used a, quick, sounds good, throw away line regarding illegals. He said that he wasn't going to take 70,000 kids out of school and throw them on the street.

70,000 kids times $15,000 = $1,050,000,000.

That's over a $Billion a year, every year, for just schooling in one city. I think that my admitted estimate of $15,000 a head for schooling in NYC is on the very low end.

33 posted on 04/24/2008 2:11:07 PM PDT by RJL
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To: T.L.Sink
US border enforcement and sovereignty RIP, compadres!!!!


37 posted on 04/24/2008 8:52:23 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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Here are some details with links. Read em and weep:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot spe ak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP TS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and
marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, “estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.”
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States “.
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

Total cost is a whopping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!


41 posted on 04/25/2008 8:40:31 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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Calif: $14 billion deficit and $10 bill in services to illegals. Total federal and state spending in Cal: $200 bill. Total services to illegals: $25 billion.

They're now planning toll lanes on FREEWAYS in LA, roads which were paid for by gas taxes. Emergency rooms have been closing. School funding is being reduced (it can't be all bad), prisons bursting at the seams with illegals, and on and on. But every Cal dem says, no need to look at illegals.

42 posted on 04/25/2008 8:45:12 AM PDT by purpleraine
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