[NYpeanut]

News flash--kids don't always know what's good for them. They're kids. They know what they have known. That's why God gives them parents, and in the absence of decent parents, God gives them a safety net of other adults who care about their welfare.

Haven't you ever raised a kid? They start out as raw material, and then you raise them to be free, educated and self-sufficient members of society so they can do the same for the next generation.

[humblegunner]

you raise them to be free, educated and self-sufficient members of society

Right.

NOT to be cultists, child-brides or rapist zealots.