Posted on 04/23/2008 4:49:36 PM PDT by Politicalmom
SAN ANGELO, Texas – The first of more than 400 children taken from a polygamist compound boarded buses Tuesday bound for 16 emergency shelters, children's homes and foster care agencies throughout the state, including two in North Texas.
As the buses rolled out, the children eagerly waved and smiled at television cameras. Lawyers inside the San Angelo Coliseum who were meeting with their adult or child clients said authorities allowed no one in or out while the children, 114 of them by day's end, were loaded onto the buses.
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I don’t think that it is ok at all. I’m just tired of saying so. I had a pretty good feeling from the beginning that the phone call was bogus, and if I could tell it was bogus, so could the authorities.
So, they grabbed all the kids and gave them internal exams to check for sexual abuse, interrogated them about their parents and living conditions and separated all the older boys who seemed to be the leaders and sent them to a “boys ranch”, which was described as a place for all sorts of boys (tough love kind of place), but the YFZ boys were being kept separated from the the rest of the boys.
So, the only way that they can prove that statutory rape occurred is to prove that some girls became mothers before the age of 18. That’s where they are now. Maybe they ought to go to the local high school and drag in all the pregnant girls, or the local Indian reservation, and see if they can arrest anyone for statutory in those cases, and in the mean time, they can haul off all the illegitimate kids of teen age mothers. It takes a village, you know and all that.
The cult may be dangerous, but this sure isn’t the way to go about proving it. They may have stopped the under age marriages after Jeffs got arrested. We don’t know, but I’ll bet that we will find out when the the cult takes the state to court.
Details, details.....
I'm not anti Mormon but it's interesting that that's what you got out of my post.
Then what IS the way of going about proving it?
You have expertise in this area I take it?
What did they do wrong and what would you have done right?
“One of those little girls look like she might have that disease I was reading about earlier (I’ve forgotten the name of it)”
Geneticists attribute this to the prevalence of cousin marriage between descendants of two of the town’s founders, Joseph Smith Jessup and John Yeates Barlow; one local historian reports that 75–80 percent of the double-communities’ roughly 10,000 inhabitants are descended from one or both of these men
It’s great that you are not anti-, but your post followed closely another (#96) with a very similar meme. I just chose to respond to yours.
So sorry if I offended you.
Oh, they must be the same person then, because the girl in that photo is Carolyn Jessop.
But she was 18 when she married.
Oh, and the disease you may have read about is fumarase:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2005578/posts
Did you hear the one about the FLDS members getting ready to move from UTAH to TEXAS?
Jeffs says to BARLOW, “OK, you can take some family, who do you want?”
Barlow says, “My wife, sister, cousin, and my niece.”
Jeffs says, “OK, that’s ONE , who is your next?”
It's a sad situation all around.
Link, please.
And your church is doing what?
Also interesting how foster parents have been trashed on several posts.
The fine republican former congressman Tom DeLay and his wife have been foster parents to many over the years.
I have read of the corrupt Texas foster care system, but I have not seen or heard of any “foster parents” being bashed.
Threads and posts over the past days have stated such.
Nothing could be worse than what the children have been
forced into over the year.
BTW I have delt with many child abuse cases when I worked with the county attys. What parents can do to their children is beyond belief. Many times I wanted to throw up.
OK. Compare 1880s mainstream Mormonism to 21st century fundamental Mormonism. Other than...
...(a) having less isolated leaders in the 1880s than fLDS...and...
...(b) having less every-aspect-of-your-life controlled than fLDS tend to do...and...
...(c) the lost boys' phenomena prominent with fLDS...
...other than these things...what was so decidedly different about 1880s mainstream Mormons than current fLDS?
That’s your problem. You’re living 120 years in the past. You’re saying that because we were polygamists (because 10-20% of the church was into the plural thing) 12 DECADES AGO, that somehow TODAY we are EXACTLY the same as this FLDS cult today.
This may shock you, and it may be difficult for you to wrap your mind around, but here goes: I did not live in the 1880s. Or 1870s. Or 1860s. The last time I checked, it is 2008.
By the way, the bold LDS thing on your fLDS acronym? It’s getting old. Too clever by a half.
As poster Najida observed on a thread last week, "These girls are raped breeding stock."
The "prophet" determines which harem that you as a young girl will be added to for life. The believers of this system stillreadily point to an 1899 mainstream Mormon second-in-command leader (George Q. Cannon) who says "People of the world don't believe in breeding, but we do." (San Pete Stake Conference, Sept., 1899, Smoot proceedings, Vol, 1, p. 9)
This is the problem you get with the basic inherited Mormon worldview--that men are wannabe gods or as their "prophets" say, "gods-in-embryo." In this micromanaged setting, the women & the girls cowtail to almost everything the men in their lives dictate to them...for these men are "gods." (And this is emphasized much more with fundamentalist Mormons--as it used to be more emphasized with mainstream Mormons). According to both mainstream and fundamentalist Mormon thought, these women will not remain married to these god-men for eternity in the celestial kingdom unless he calls her from beyond the veil. Females are led to believe their spiritual eternity is dependent upon their "worthiness."
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