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Gun fanatics should stop using tragedies to promote ideology that 'more guns equals less violence'
The Orion ^ | 4/16/08 | Mike Murphy

Posted on 04/23/2008 2:10:11 PM PDT by neverdem

There are two types of "gun nuts," those who will say, "I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands," and those who insist on bringing their Mossberg 590 shotgun to heaven once the rapture comes.

Gun enthusiasts are an interesting crowd. They are our fathers and uncles, our neighbors and friends and often times they are our elected officials. Though there are many things wrong in this country, gun nuts often hold the gun rights issue as the No. 1 concern when heading to the polls to vote. They often have a pettiness toward their love of guns, too ­- using "Happiness Is a Warm Gun" as their MySpace profile song even though there are about two dozen better Beatles songs to choose from. And that's just the beginning of their pettiness.

But what has always irritated me most about many gun nuts is their audacity to use tragedies such as the Columbine and Virginia Tech massacres to promote their causes for fewer restrictions on carrying handguns in public.

President Paul Zingg agrees.

"Yes, students have right to protect themselves," he said. "Do I think they should carry handguns? No."

Today marks the one-year anniversary of the Virginia Tech school shootings, a tragedy that occurred when a gunman shot and killed 32 people and then himself in a shooting rampage. As we commemorate this tragedy, we will probably hear twisted logic from gun rights groups such as the National Rifle Association to promote the idea of allowing students and professors to carry concealed handguns on campus.

They use Virginia Tech as fodder for what could have happened if more people were packing heat the day gunman Seung-Hui Cho shot so many people. Their logic goes something like this: If more students were armed on the day these events occurred, there would have been a bystander in the crowd who would have ridden in on a white stallion, weapons blazing, and valiantly stopped the gunman in his tracks. But disregard that this fairy tale fantasy relies on outside factors. One: This white knight would need the accuracy and the courage to perform such a feat. Two: The superhero would have to be miraculously standing within 100 feet or so of the gunman to be able to take him down. Three: This courageous gun owner would have to do all this without getting killed.

No evidence supports the idea that if someone in those tragedies had a gun the damage would have been prevented or minimized, Zingg said.

Gun advocates might counter by saying, "Well if he'd known more people had guns it may have prevented him from doing it." Are you kidding me? Did you see that videotape he sent NBC saying why he did it? That guy was crazy. He knew he was going to die that day and wanted to take out as many people as he could before he did it.

The bottom line is: Students and professors should not be allowed to have guns on campus. This myth that "an armed society is a polite society" is unproven and silly. I say, "an armed society is a paranoid and pompous society." Having to watch your manners and hope your gun is bigger than everyone else's is not an appealing way to go through life.

As for guns on campus, it's unsafe and unnecessary. Just because Second Amendment nuts want a Glock tucked in their pants 24/7 to overcome some mental insecurity, doesn't mean I should have to feel uncomfortable knowing a shot could accidentally go off while the teacher is lecturing.

Zingg said the key to safety on campus is "caring and vigilance for one another" and greater visibility of law enforcement. I agree.

The campus community needs to have more appreciation for University Police and respect officers "as not being rent-a-cops, because they're not," he said.

Living in a country that gives its citizens the right to bear arms has advantages and disadvantages, but arming students and professors isn't logical - it's ideological - and won't stop massacres such as Virginia Tech from happening again.

Mike Murphy can be reached at opinioneditor@theorion.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; schoolshootings
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The author is too stupid to remember the Colorado Springs Church with the female named Jeanne with a concealed carry license stopped the bad guy before he could kill more than two, IIRC. I can't remember her last name, but it looked Arabic.
1 posted on 04/23/2008 2:10:11 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

*looks around*

Where’s the Super Mega Barf alert?


2 posted on 04/23/2008 2:11:39 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: neverdem

Jeanne Assam


3 posted on 04/23/2008 2:12:46 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: neverdem

Oh, don’t be too hardon this guy, he’s trying to impress his boyfriend with the article.


4 posted on 04/23/2008 2:14:02 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: RWB Patriot

This guy doesn’t know a thing about guns and “gun nuts”. Maybe we should all start sending some facts to his email; see how long before he goes nuts trying to debunk us?


5 posted on 04/23/2008 2:14:12 PM PDT by RWB Patriot
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To: neverdem
The author is too stupid

You were good right there.

Meanwhile, the author was also too stupid to remember the various calls for more gun control coming out of these very same incidents. . .
6 posted on 04/23/2008 2:15:13 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: neverdem
and those who insist on bringing their Mossberg 590 shotgun to heaven once the rapture comes.

Is this an option? I was unaware. Hmmmmm.

7 posted on 04/23/2008 2:15:20 PM PDT by Sax
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To: neverdem
Though there are many things wrong in this country, gun nuts often

EOT for me.

8 posted on 04/23/2008 2:16:09 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: neverdem

This is hilarious! The author is no doubt using high satire when ascribing the tactics of the antis to the RKBA folks!

But if it will save even one life...it’s for the children!


9 posted on 04/23/2008 2:16:12 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: RWB Patriot

Only if everyone signs their emails with “Clinging bitterly to God”


10 posted on 04/23/2008 2:17:06 PM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent......)
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To: neverdem
...knowing a shot could accidentally go off while...

This douche of a writer needs to understand, no modern firearm in a reasonable state of maintenance "Accidentally" goes off.

It takes a dumb@ss with an IQ lower than most garden variety worms to cause an "Accidental Discharge" and those are not the kind of people who commonly have CCW permits, but do tend to have badges.
11 posted on 04/23/2008 2:17:21 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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Well, you have to understand that to a lib, “calls for gun control” are just what “IS”.

To libs, it’s like noticing whether a room has air (what IS) or a lack of air (calls for more guns). You don’t notice that a room has air.


12 posted on 04/23/2008 2:17:22 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Sax

“Is this an option? “

I think there is a five round capacity limit there, but I’m not sure.


13 posted on 04/23/2008 2:17:38 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: neverdem
"The campus community needs to have more appreciation for University Police and respect officers the Second Amendment and people relying on their God-given right of self-defense."


There, fixed it.
14 posted on 04/23/2008 2:17:38 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: neverdem
Gun fanatics should stop using tragedies to promote ideology that 'more guns equals less violence'

He's just mad because he and the other panty-wetting hoplophobes that are dancing in the blood of the victims are already using that tactic.

15 posted on 04/23/2008 2:18:03 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Vote! Vote for the conservative local, state, and national candidates of your choice, but VOTE!)
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To: neverdem
There are two types of "gun nuts," those who will say, "I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands," and those who insist on bringing their Mossberg 590 shotgun to heaven once the rapture comes.

How do I get promoted to Gun Nut Type 2?

16 posted on 04/23/2008 2:18:05 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

A few Thanksgivings ago, I was arguing with a relative who was for restricting “semi-automatic rifles”.

I stopped him in his tracks when I asked him to tell me what a “semi-automatic” was.

To his credit, he didn’t do the normal change of subject, but admitted that he didn’t know.


17 posted on 04/23/2008 2:19:38 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: neverdem

There are two types of “gun nuts,” those who will say, “I’ll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands,” and those who insist on bringing their Mossberg 590 shotgun to heaven once the rapture comes. “

True enough. Comes down to covenantalists and dispensationalists....


18 posted on 04/23/2008 2:20:22 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: DBrow

Can I just plug up the mag tube with a little piece of cut broomstick to bring it down to a 5nd capacity?


19 posted on 04/23/2008 2:22:29 PM PDT by Sax
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To: RWB Patriot
Where’s the Super Mega Barf alert?

The title was too long even for a barf alert.

20 posted on 04/23/2008 2:23:12 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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