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Hillary Now LEADS Obama In POPULAR VOTE Total
Real Clear Politics ^ | 4/23/2008 | Real Clear Politics

Posted on 04/23/2008 8:42:10 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders

Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)

Obama: 14,973,720 / 47.4%
Clinton: 15,095,663 / 47.8%


Clinton: +121,943 / +0.4%

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; hillary; obama; operationchaos; pa2008
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To: samtheman

My point is that the technique is completely backfiring. It was a stupid idea and it skewed a process that was already chaotic, but would probably have turned out better for us without any interference.


121 posted on 04/23/2008 12:25:46 PM PDT by livius
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To: LS

I’ll point out an interesting aspect of this FL & MI situation. The delegates, by the statements of the DNC...are disqualified from the “first round”. The DNC hasn’t said anything about the aspects of the second or third or fourth round of voting...if a winner isn’t declared on the first vote. You have to remember...the declared delegates are totally free after the first round to vote for anyone.

I’m suspecting that the super-delegates will abstain from the first round, on purpose. No winners declared in the first round.....so the DNC will smile and then invite the MI & FL delegates to vote for the second round. My guess is that half of the super-delegates will stand-down and abstain a second time...on purpose. By this point...some state delegations will start to deal.

I think Hillary could then pull off a win, and shock the Obama crowd greatly. Everyone would accept this scenario...and the DNC would get out of this mess.


122 posted on 04/23/2008 12:28:28 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Pit1

If he has a Dem congress, which he will, he’ll be signing exactly the bills he wants to sign. He also gets to appoint at least two Supreme Court justices, btw, and you can imagine what they’re going to be like. I think a lot of laws will get passed in the first year or so, before there is any organized resistance built up - and before the few Dems who probably do love and respect their country have time to decide they don’t want to go along with the lunacy - and then we’re going to have a lot of difficulty doing anything to resist it.


123 posted on 04/23/2008 12:30:00 PM PDT by livius
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To: samtheman
because Hillary has NO chance of winning the nomination. NONE.

What if Obama has a seizure and can't go on? What if Obama passes away fom a mysterious illness, dies in an accident, or is murdered by some "conservative redneck thug" planted by the Clintons? What if Hillary wins the popular vote and the big states and the DNC desides to "let the voters of Florida and Michigan" decide? What if It gets so close that the Super-delegates take them both in a room and say "Barack, you are the younger and less experienced of the candidates. You can be VP for 8 years and still be president for 8 years too. Hillary is older. this is her last best chance. We believe that a Clinton/Obama ticket will heal all wounds, reunite the party, make the old agree with the young, the rich agree with the poor, the college crowd agree with the high-scoolers and the blacks, whites, and hispanics band together. We also are telling you that if you refuse the offer, you will very probably lose and be condemned to history's dumpster. Eternal fame, or the dumpster Barack? What is it?

125 posted on 04/23/2008 1:37:47 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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To: pepsionice
Good points. My point is that I don't think these superdelegates (or any of them, actually) want to within 10 miles of EITHER

a) denying the nomination to whoever wins the popular vote (and it could be Hillary if MI and FL are counted), or

b) denying the nomination to the "black guy."

So I think you're gonna see the biggest bob and weave since Ali fought Frazier at the convention, as these people will take ANY option, including the courts, to avoid having to make one of those two choices.

126 posted on 04/23/2008 1:52:05 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Soliton

In a lot of those scenarios you mentioned — basically involving the death of Obama — Hillary could be “called back” even if she was already defeated and “out”. So that’s not really an issue, then, is it?

As far as the back room deal goes, you might have a point on that one. I have to grant you that. However, that presupposes that all parties are rational and dealing with dems (or for that matter, any pols) that’s a pretty big pre-supposition.

The one thing I am sure of right now is that Hillary is gasping and doing lots of damage to her party and thinks she can remain viable by doing that damage and frankly, I’m lovin’ it and would love to see it continue.


127 posted on 04/23/2008 2:24:50 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Owen

You have a point about registration. I don’t live in any of the states affected by Operation Chaos. I don’t know if I would go so far as to actually go vote in a rat primary. All I know is this: I see Rush’s point, I see what he’s trying to do, and I think his goal is well-thought-out and laudable.


128 posted on 04/23/2008 2:26:18 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Fred
” Blow me RushTard”

Sounds like something a moonbat demo would say.

129 posted on 04/23/2008 3:29:40 PM PDT by kempo (H)
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To: LS

LS, you gotta trust me on this one ... the Clintons will bend, fold, staple and mutilte the rules to get what they want .. not to mention any individual or party that gets in their way.

HOWEVER, rules of the DNC are not and cannot be stretched in any shape, manner or form to become LAW. Soooooooooo, their ‘courts’ are the powers that be at the DNC and at its nominating convention. There cannot and will not be a lawsuit.


130 posted on 04/23/2008 5:22:48 PM PDT by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: samtheman

Please say a Hail Rushbo for me the next time you’re at church between noon and three Monday through Friday between 9:00 and 12:00 eastern time.


131 posted on 04/23/2008 8:07:37 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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