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A short article about LA, I've never been so I can't judge its accuracy.
1 posted on 04/22/2008 7:44:40 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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“Shared prosperity” = “Communism”


2 posted on 04/22/2008 7:47:25 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: AuntB; cripplecreek; traviskicks; Borax Queen; SandRat; fieldmarshaldj; SwinneySwitch; T.L.Sink

The consequences of open borders, multiculturalism, and “diversity” are on display for all to see. And they’re not a success story.

Coming to other American cities if the Open Borders crowd has its way.


4 posted on 04/22/2008 7:52:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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“Illiterate peasants.”

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/04/lawmaker-stuns.html


5 posted on 04/22/2008 7:55:21 PM PDT by dhs12345
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I have been to several third world cities and I have been to LA recently. It is just silly to claim they are alike.

When I was in Adana, Turkey, there were cattle in the streets. There were cats you would give a wide berth to. There were horse and oxen drawn vehicles. There was hot water a couple of hours some days.

Heck when I was in Istanbul there was a guy with a bear on a change who for money would make the bear dance. The bear was muzzled.

LA is a typical US city. It has very nice areas. It has bad areas. It has electricity and running water to all areas. It has paved roads throughout.


6 posted on 04/22/2008 7:55:44 PM PDT by JLS
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7 posted on 04/22/2008 7:56:41 PM PDT by traumer
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Now all they need is for it to get inexplicably colder and rainier and Ridley Scott’s “Bladerunner” will be a reality.


13 posted on 04/22/2008 8:17:18 PM PDT by sinanju
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Don’t believe these cockamammie Commies in the MPI! The actual figures are much higher. We’ve been invaded and we’ve let them stay and drop their anchor babies and take our jobs. Most of us didn’t complain when in the 70s, they took the hard labor farmworker harvesting jobs. Then, they moved into the cities and took our high-paying construction and plant jobs. It got so bad in L.A. that they were not questioned at the polling booths where many voted—a Federal and state felony. They don’t assimilate. They’re still Mexicans. They send what they earn back home so it never gets recirculated into the American economy.

The answer to the pro-business types who contend “But if we deported them, there’d be no one to change the sheets in the hotels and motels, no one to do janitorial work, no one to pick the fruit and veggies!” is...if those lawbreaking business can’t figure out that they can easily get American labor if they raise the pay and offer benes, then they don’t deserve to be in business and should sell out to those who will pay good wages again for work done. We’ve seen it in the meatpacking plants in the Midwest that were raided—the owners brought back American workers for a higher wage and there were lines around the block to get those jobs!


17 posted on 04/22/2008 8:31:04 PM PDT by levotb
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More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


25 posted on 04/22/2008 8:43:40 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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L.A. is a Third World city? Sounds like another video/photo-op for giant ego and megalomaniac Mayor Villaraigosa.


26 posted on 04/22/2008 8:47:18 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Hi Dad!)
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It is normal for a large city to have both great wealth and poverty. Name one that doesn’t. American cities have never been exceptions to this.

Of course LA does have major problems - crime, pollution, lack of transit, dealing with illegals, homelessness, gangs, etc.


34 posted on 04/22/2008 9:41:51 PM PDT by buck jarret
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I’ve been to a few third world cities and I’ve been to LA a couple of times, but the last time was 1985.

I bet if I went back, I’d see a lot more to remind me of third cities now than I did in 1985.


36 posted on 04/22/2008 9:42:59 PM PDT by Will88
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Ping!


60 posted on 04/22/2008 10:24:08 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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Is it ok to ask if there are any predominately white cities that are awash with crime?

Can anyone think of one?


89 posted on 04/22/2008 11:13:13 PM PDT by wardaddy
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" 'Los Angeles 'is a Third World city' ... A short article about LA, I've never been so I can't judge its accuracy. "

Oh it's accurate all right, but it's not like it happened in the last few years. I grew up in LA in the 1960s when it was a normal American city. But in the 1970s, and moreso in the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, the city turned into the cesspool it currently is. LA resembles Mexico City more than America -- crowds, crime, grime, graffiti, lazy men on street corners, cheap tinny Mexican music on every street corner.

All because we don't enforce our immigration laws, and because liberals fight common sense enforcement.

LA might still be prosperous but it is like Rio de Janeiro -- wealthy but surrounded by millions of angry peasants.

It was my home but I wouldn't move back there for a million dollars.

92 posted on 04/22/2008 11:26:29 PM PDT by tom h
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Most third world cities enjoy some sense of sovereignty.
101 posted on 04/23/2008 3:14:04 AM PDT by Nachoman (My guns and my ammo, they comfort me.)
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Illegal immigrants are “uneducated peasants”.


102 posted on 04/23/2008 3:42:33 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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If they polled the residents of LA they would most likely find out thata majority would be either embarrassed to be called Americans or insulted.


115 posted on 04/23/2008 7:10:53 AM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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LA is a big city and has many districts. But I believe the article is correct in the general sense of the trend.


142 posted on 04/23/2008 10:39:47 AM PDT by purpleraine
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Believe me, it’s accurate. LA is lost forever. It is a Third World City and sinking daily into the mire.


159 posted on 04/23/2008 2:47:52 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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First of all, I have never and will never live in LA or any other place like it. For many reasons, I feel like a rat in a cage in cities like that (spent to much time on the Plains to feel comfortable in a concrete camp like LA or Chicago for to long).

But the author is partially right, but partially wrong. My boss grew up in Brazil. In a suburb just out side of a big city down there. He has said a few times that he sees the US sliding into the same stuff that many of the cites in Brazil had. High crime, corrupt government, decaying infrastructure, etc.

We aren't there yet, but we are getting closer. It isn't just the illegal immigrants (though they have sped the process along in places), but many natural citizens are part of the problem. We have stopped being a nation of “Can do!” and become a nation of waiting for the next hand out. Look at all the trailer trash that was still in FEMA trailers over a year after Katrina! THESE WERE NOT JUST BLACKS OR MEXICANS!

The policies of the last 40 years have built up two generations of people who honestly don't want to work, and would rather tear the place down. It is across ethnic groups and areas.

184 posted on 04/24/2008 3:31:41 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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