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FLDS telling their story — on the Internet
The desert News ^ | 04 21 08 | Ben Winslow and Nancy Perkins

Posted on 04/21/2008 10:23:21 PM PDT by Howdy there

SAN ANGELO, Texas —

In another stage of their public relations campaign to battle stereotypes and speak out against the raid that placed 437 children in state protective custody, the Fundamentalist LDS faithful are speaking out on the Internet.

A pair of Web sites were unveiled Monday in an effort to explain the FLDS beliefs and rally public sympathy behind the polygamous sect.

On captivefldschildren.org, photos and video of the raid were posted showing law enforcement's raid on the YFZ Ranch, Texas child protective services workers rounding up children and putting them on buses, and damage apparently done by law enforcement when they searched the compound.

"This site was created by the FLDS people to help the innocent children that were living at the YFZ Ranch in Eldorado, Texas," the site says, including a link to donations to help defray legal costs. Sources at the YFZ Ranch confirmed that the church was behind the creation of the Web sites. Information about who registered the Internet domain names was run through a Canadian company specializing in ensuring the information is kept private.

Pro-polygamy activist Mary Batchelor e-mailed supporters links to the Web sites on Monday. "I don't know if it's real or not but the pictures on there could only have come from those people," Batchelor said. "I'm excited they're doing this, they're really speaking out."

The companion Web site, fldstruth.org, said its goal is to counter the "many lies" circulating around the church. The site promises to provide facts about the church's doctrines, beliefs and teachings. A photo timeline of the FLDS leaders appears to still be under construction.

"And knowing that truth must be the basis of all righteous considerations as pertains to the great redemption work of our Savior in these latter days; we seek to disabuse the minds of the honest in heart, of the deceptions inherent in reports from malicious and evil disposed persons," the site said.

Once known as secretive and cloistered, the FLDS have gone on a public relations offensive since their children were taken earlier this month. They opened the gates of the Yearning For Zion Ranch to the Deseret News before inviting other news media outlets to visit the compound.

FLDS members have also been guests on "Larry King Live," and other TV talk shows denouncing allegations of abuse and pleading for the return of their children.


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To: Howdy there

BTTT


61 posted on 04/22/2008 7:40:32 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian

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62 posted on 04/22/2008 7:45:15 AM PDT by Godzilla (We are the land of the free because of the brave.)
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To: colorcountry; Enosh
Hi CC,

Our previous discussion (on another thread) was cut short by the Moderator before I had a chance to read it through.

It sounds like you have set yourself free. Congratulations. Look forward and not back. Continue to look toward the Saviour, and He will not fail you. May you find His peace through true forgiveness.

Just curious, is Enosh correct? Have you had your name officially removed from the LDS lists?

63 posted on 04/22/2008 8:02:39 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: All

This is a matter of constitutionality and evidence gathering on the governments part, not who has a better Jesus! We need to be grateful that the FBI and other entities involved didn’t kill everybody by burning the compound to the ground. Are we so short sighted and have a memory loss that the excuse the government is using here is the same one that was used in Waco, TX. I didn’t agree with the Branch Davidians either but Janet Reno passed judgement and “did it for the children.” We need to be vigilant and aware of why this is happening.


64 posted on 04/22/2008 8:06:40 AM PDT by killermedic ("discipline isnÂ’t reserved for times of combat....only tested there.")
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To: Jess Kitting

I’m not certain what the status of my request is. It doesn’t matter to me. That is a man-made consequence of an action my parents requested I take when I was eight years old.

It is insignificant to Christ, it is inconsequential to me. I am in Christ. No list on earth binds me. As I said I am free indeed.


65 posted on 04/22/2008 8:07:54 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: killermedic

We need to be vigilant and aware of why this is happening.


As you said .....This is a matter of constitutionality and evidence gathering on the governments part,......

Child abuse and human bondage shouldn’t be tolerated. Hopefully the evidence gathering will give a clearer picture of where the truth may reside.


66 posted on 04/22/2008 8:31:37 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: Jess Kitting
First of all, I don't own them, nor do they work for me. They are responsible for the words they say as well as their actions. They are accountable to God. I'll leave their condemnation up to Him.

If you don't care whether your Prophet is a true prophet or a false prophet, then you are not following Jesus' commands or the commands of scripture:

Matthew 7:15,16 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits....
2 Timothy 4:3,4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth , and be turned aside to fables.
Acts 20:29-31 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves . Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
Matthew 15:9 And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.
2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 Peter 3:16,17 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
Hebrews 13:9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

67 posted on 04/22/2008 8:32:48 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...
fLDS have the gall to put the following biblical verse on its front page of one of these new Web sites: "That you should honestly contend for the faith that was once delivered to the saints.”

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68 posted on 04/22/2008 8:42:22 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: greyfoxx39

You know ... these guys should link up with Osama. They have so much in common. Don’t laugh. It’s probably already happened.


69 posted on 04/22/2008 8:52:53 AM PDT by gost2
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To: P-Marlowe

Veazey is very likely a false front. He’ll never get his picture up there in the panoply of gods. They still worship Jeffs and he’s probably still running the cult.


70 posted on 04/22/2008 8:55:25 AM PDT by gost2
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To: P-Marlowe
And that matters to you because . . . ?

Perhaps you are being a false prophet by telling me how I should behave and how I should interpret scripture.

How do you get off doing that? Did God appoint you to tell me what I should believe?

71 posted on 04/22/2008 8:55:30 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: deport

I agree! It shouldn’t be tolerated anymore than slavery should be. Even if it is someones religious beliefs that slavery is upheld by their version of holy writ.
my whole problem is that this 16 year old girl does nothing more than phone the authorities about alleged abuse and they go in lock stock and barrel to whisk away everybodies children in perfect Janet Reno fashion. I see it the same way as my neighbor calling in domestic violence and my kids getting taken away because I live in the same neighborhood and have the same values.


72 posted on 04/22/2008 8:56:01 AM PDT by killermedic ("discipline isnÂ’t reserved for times of combat....only tested there.")
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To: gost2
Veazey is very likely a false front

Veazey is not in any way affiliated with the FLDS Church.

73 posted on 04/22/2008 9:13:23 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

One thing is true—Its a Real Mess and the state of Texas could have done a better job of it.


74 posted on 04/22/2008 9:19:45 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: P-Marlowe
Are you willing to admit that you don't have a clue about what the Book of Mormon teaches?

Um, no.

75 posted on 04/22/2008 9:26:51 AM PDT by Howdy there
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To: colorcountry

Why is this “list” so important to Mormons? If you are “on” or “off”?


76 posted on 04/22/2008 9:28:48 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: gost2

U.S. Muslims and Mormons share deepening ties.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1995611/posts


77 posted on 04/22/2008 9:31:16 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Their trolls have been on this forum too, trying to defend polygamy (while not appearing to defend it) and to attack the Eldorado police and FBI for carrying out the raid.

I am totally against polygamy. I have serious qualms about the younger children being taken from their mothers.

78 posted on 04/22/2008 9:31:28 AM PDT by Howdy there
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To: Colofornian
The site promises to provide facts about the church's doctrines, beliefs and teachings.

I don't particularly care about what they say about what they believe. I care about what they practice and what laws they break.

79 posted on 04/22/2008 9:34:09 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: killermedic

I’m not sure how to protect the child outside of looking/asking questions and if you don’t like what you see or the answers you get then you remove them until you can look at the situation indepth. I know that leaves situations open for abuse by gov’t.

What would your solution be to handling a call like the Hot line got and referred to CPS?


80 posted on 04/22/2008 9:37:30 AM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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