Posted on 04/21/2008 10:23:21 PM PDT by Howdy there
SAN ANGELO, Texas —
In another stage of their public relations campaign to battle stereotypes and speak out against the raid that placed 437 children in state protective custody, the Fundamentalist LDS faithful are speaking out on the Internet.
A pair of Web sites were unveiled Monday in an effort to explain the FLDS beliefs and rally public sympathy behind the polygamous sect.
On captivefldschildren.org, photos and video of the raid were posted showing law enforcement's raid on the YFZ Ranch, Texas child protective services workers rounding up children and putting them on buses, and damage apparently done by law enforcement when they searched the compound.
"This site was created by the FLDS people to help the innocent children that were living at the YFZ Ranch in Eldorado, Texas," the site says, including a link to donations to help defray legal costs. Sources at the YFZ Ranch confirmed that the church was behind the creation of the Web sites. Information about who registered the Internet domain names was run through a Canadian company specializing in ensuring the information is kept private.
Pro-polygamy activist Mary Batchelor e-mailed supporters links to the Web sites on Monday. "I don't know if it's real or not but the pictures on there could only have come from those people," Batchelor said. "I'm excited they're doing this, they're really speaking out."
The companion Web site, fldstruth.org, said its goal is to counter the "many lies" circulating around the church. The site promises to provide facts about the church's doctrines, beliefs and teachings. A photo timeline of the FLDS leaders appears to still be under construction.
"And knowing that truth must be the basis of all righteous considerations as pertains to the great redemption work of our Savior in these latter days; we seek to disabuse the minds of the honest in heart, of the deceptions inherent in reports from malicious and evil disposed persons," the site said.
Once known as secretive and cloistered, the FLDS have gone on a public relations offensive since their children were taken earlier this month. They opened the gates of the Yearning For Zion Ranch to the Deseret News before inviting other news media outlets to visit the compound.
FLDS members have also been guests on "Larry King Live," and other TV talk shows denouncing allegations of abuse and pleading for the return of their children.
Yes. Didn't you read the link? The boys are not safe.
Have you not heard about the technique called *breaking the baby*? Basically, it's waterboarding infants to teach them not to cry, so the infants are not safe, either.
At that point, all that's left is preteen girls. With this group's propensity to abuse boys, teenage girls and babies, why would any sane person think that the one group left would be safe? CPS knows they wouldn't be from past experience.
And how is it protecting the kids if you leave them to get abused before you remove them?
People who abuse one kid will abuse others as well. If they don't stop with the one, what's to stop them with the others? Removing all their kids in one family is standard procedure with child abuse cases because CPS knows that's true.
If the investigators discovered during their interviews on the compound that the kids could not correctly ID the mothers and the mothers would not co-operate in giving names, then they are forced to either remove the kids until parentage could be determined or leave them in the custody of people who may not be their parents, and that they will not do.
So how is that a hammer blow? How is this case any different from what they usually do except for the numbers involved?
"Data shows that while the number of foster children in our state's care increased 24 percent from 26,133 in Fiscal 2003 to 32,474 in Fiscal 2005, the number of deaths increased 60 percent.
"If you compare the number of deaths of children in our state's population to the number of deaths in our state's foster care system, a child is four times more likely to die in our state's foster care system.
http://www.window.state.tx.us/news/60623statement.html
I appreciate your interesting remarks on this subject.
I would like to clarify that I in no way approve or condone of any sexual abuse of any kids.
That having been said, I went and read the articles I could find on Angie’s Voss’s testimony. She states that there may be pregnancies in females under the age of “17 OR 16” (Emphasis mine.)
I realize they probably don’t know the birth dates yet of some of these girls.
Either way, I do think those children should be removed unless they are legal wives of one man.
The other small kids, I have a big problem with them being removed, especially the infants that are still nursing and the younger children.
Sorry, I know over the top when I see it. I have seen nothing in all the posts and news reports that suggests anything but older men finding a way to have sex with young girls (maybe forced, maybe under the guise of religion)nothing about this particular group engaged in welfare fraud, baby abuse, male child abuse,drugs etc.
Look up Flora Jessup on Google. Read her interviews.
She’s on almost every night on one news channel or the other.
Start with her. Then you can move on to the other women who escaped and THEIR stories.
She’s from Colorado City. Same cult.
"I found, from information provided by the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, in Fiscal 2003, 30 foster children died in our state's care; in Fiscal 2004, 38 foster children died; and in Fiscal 2005, 48 foster children died.
"Data shows that while the number of foster children in our state's care increased 24 percent from 26,133 in Fiscal 2003 to 32,474 in Fiscal 2005, the number of deaths increased 60 percent.
32,474 (total foster children)/ 48 (foster children died) = 1 out of 676.
Not 1 out of 4.
I believe the comptroller meant that a child in foster care in Texas had a 1 in 4 greater chance of dying, not that one in 4 children in foster care died.
WHICH lds church??
Keep this up and you be wanting to KNOW just what was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANISM that Joseph Smith 'learned'!
But you ARE willing to play your own?
Why not?
Do you want to bash them on your own?
No, I am not a Mormon and it would be very fair to say that I am adamantly anti Mormon and anti what the Book of Mormon teaches.
#16
(He said he wasn't in #16)
I hope this is a typo:
Legal wiveS?
If you have any problems with the fact that I do not believe Mormonism and the Book of Mormon, I suggest that you just build a bridge and get over it.
This is America. You nor anyone else can force me to follow that belief system.
I hope you don't fancy yourself to be the typo police.
THE LDS church
I was just testing him to see if he could actually answer a question.
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