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HD enthusiasts crying foul over cable TV's crunched signals
Associated Press ^ | April 21, 2008 | CHRIS WILLIAMS,

Posted on 04/21/2008 8:09:46 PM PDT by george76

As cable TV companies pack ever more HD channels into limited bandwidth, some owners of pricey plasma, projector and LCD TVs are complaining that they're not getting the high-def quality they paid for. They blame the increased signal compression being used to squeeze three digital HD signals into the bandwidth of one analog station.

The problem is viewers want more HD channels at a time when many cable and satellite providers are at the limits of their capacity...

"They have to figure out a way to deliver more HD content through their distribution networks," ...

Compressing the signal is cheaper than costly infrastructure upgrades to increase capacity. Satellite TV providers ... also have the option of launching satellites to boost the number of HD channels on their systems.

While information is nearly always lost when signals are compressed and then uncompressed, the process can theoretically be made unnoticeable to eyes and ears — and Comcast says it should be.

But some viewers say they can see it. Willcox said complaints about compression have been showing up on Web forums, including the AV Science Forum

Philadelphia-based Comcast wouldn't identify specific signals that are 3-to-1 compressed...

And there are other reasons a high-definition picture can appear subpar...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: comcast; hd; signalcompression
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To: an amused spectator; All
I have no idea how they are getting away with different prices for everyone. One elderly lady I know called to cancel her cable because the price was too high and they dropped it twenty bucks on the spot.

I was called about an new 1 1/2 x high speed Internet package, good for 1 year, 42 bucks a month. I asked the guy ,"What happens after a year?", "Oh " he says "It will go up a few dollars". I told him I wanted it in writing. LOL Nothin yet, probably can't find a pen. Lately Comcast has been dropping channels rather than increase prices, I noticed about half a dozen since I signed on.

Let me ask Freepers this, do you think Cable companies should charge wild west prices, like the airlines do, or should it have some sort of regulation? They are a monopoly you know.

21 posted on 04/21/2008 9:27:47 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: Terpfen
Time to get more bandwidth, then. Fiber, anyone?

There's lots of bandwidth available, but just like old TV broadcast all channels along the allotted frequency, digital cable broadcasts all digital channels on the available bandwidth. More channels equals less quality. Now if they could just switch it so that you actually only get the one channel you've selected with all the bandwidth you'd have just about Blu-Ray quality with current infrastructure.

22 posted on 04/21/2008 9:37:50 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Psycho_Bunny
HOME RUN!. At this point the cable companies should be paying us. It's all ad driven, they want in to sell me stuff. Recently I tried to watch “National Treasure”, there was 10 minute movie,5 minute ads, mostly about other channel programming, then back to the movie. When they had an overlaid ad within the movie itself, I turned it off.

The internet is getting as bad,audio pop-ups, and ‘watch this ad’ cra@p, before you can see what you came for.

23 posted on 04/21/2008 9:39:26 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: OeOeO
Who needs TV?

...The ad people...

24 posted on 04/21/2008 9:42:27 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
I had HD cable on in my house for 5 minutes before I called the cable company to come get their crap and credit my account.

Really? Mine is spectacular.

25 posted on 04/21/2008 9:43:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Buddy B

I saw somewhere that admen were trying a campaign where they could actually target passerby’s on the street with an audio campaign.You would hear the ad as you walked by. It’s creepy.


26 posted on 04/21/2008 9:50:23 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I wish I were in a location that got broadcast digital. I bought my mother-in-law a set that has a digital tuner, the picture is beautiful with all the networks having 3 or 4 channels.


27 posted on 04/21/2008 10:11:40 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama: America is the greatest country on the earth, Help me bring change.)
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To: SunkenCiv
My BluRay player (Sony BDP-S300) has been flawless. Ditto for the BluRay movies. Great 1080p/24 fps and great audio. I also own a Toshiba HD-A30 (1080p HD-DVD player). The HD-DVD player crashes frequently. Playing a complete movie is nearly impossible. When it runs, it does provide decent video and audio. Often, I have to reboot and seek a scene near the point where the crash occurred to continue watching the movie.

The DishNet-HD receiver provides good 1080i to the TV. Dolby surround sound (5.1) is often available on the over the air signal. I notice big differences in audio levels between DishNet and OTA TV.

28 posted on 04/21/2008 10:20:26 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: OeOeO
The GPS location of your cell phone can be used to identify where you and your phone are currently located (if you don't have the 911 only option set). That location can be used to target location specific ads at you. Just wait until you find yourself paying for location specific SPAM to sell you services offered by a business in your immediate location.

I'm having a bitch of a time tonight with my regular e-mail address. Some spammer has appropriated it as the "legal" address on every outbound message. My mailbox is getting loaded with "undeliverable" messages. Damn annoying given the kind of money I pay for that account.

29 posted on 04/21/2008 10:27:57 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: an amused spectator

I applied for one of the ghetto $40 off coupons for a DTV converter, and bought one at Best Buy....works very good.


30 posted on 04/21/2008 10:32:12 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Mike Darancette

I get 20 HDTV channels over the air for free using a $80 bow-tie UHF antenna on the roof. My location is 1800 feet MSL in the Sierra Foothills of Northern California. No more pay tv for me.


31 posted on 04/21/2008 10:49:38 PM PDT by 386wt (Be free and don't die!)
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To: Myrddin
I participated,a few years ago in a Nielson survey where I was to take a device with me every time I left home. Greedy as I was I accepted the terms. In them days I used to drive to empty corners of the state just out of curiosity. I wonder if I skewed their expectations. Someone may be broadcasting come-ons to a rooster somewhere.
32 posted on 04/21/2008 10:50:22 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: Myrddin
As much as I would not like govt involvement, I would like the post office to operate an email service. I would also like them to offer a money transfer service. Where, if you are ripped off,they lower the boom no matter how low the dollar amount. I have had several PayPal ripoffs where
PayPal does nothing. It is very frustrating no matter how little you were suckered for, YOU WERE STILL SUCKERED!
Guiliani Time should be in full force.
33 posted on 04/21/2008 11:07:41 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: george76

I’m thinking of switching to DirecTV from Brighthouse cable (used to be TWC in Central Florida).

They are very slow in bringing in HD content and the DVR they give us is 3yo technology with a 160gb hard drive, which records about 20hrs of HD programming. The box even has an expansion port on the back for an external drive but it is not activated. A call or email to Brighthouse gets a reply that they have no intention in the near future to support that external port or ship the DVRs with larger hard drives.

They’ve just gotten too cocky. For what I pay per month for their crappy cable and 10Mb broadband I should have access to, or be able to supply my own, bleeding edge stuff.


34 posted on 04/21/2008 11:27:53 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats - Stupid is as stupid does)
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To: ADemocratNoMore; advertising guy; aft_lizard; AJMaXx; Alice in Wonderland; american colleen; ...
Pinging the HDTV list..Special thanks to George76 and SunkenCiv for their pings.

HDTV pings

35 posted on 04/22/2008 12:08:02 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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To: Buddy B
I want my ...
I want my ...
I want my ... TV

36 posted on 04/22/2008 12:28:16 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Would you expand on that? What was it that you didn’t like? What did you get instead? Without side by side comparison, how noticeable is it?


37 posted on 04/22/2008 4:46:51 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Terpfen

Time for satellite TV to start using fiber optics !


38 posted on 04/22/2008 5:39:55 AM PDT by George from New England (now from north of Tampa Bay)
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To: MartinStyles
For my cable, the HD channels sure aren’t any Blu-ray, but they’re insanely better than SD junk

Geez, what do you expect. Absolutely nothing is now, or ever likely will be, broadcast in 1080p.

39 posted on 04/22/2008 5:49:07 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: BreezyDog
The storage capacity for 250 old-style DVDs is down to $200.00.

Do "math for pirates".

40 posted on 04/22/2008 6:03:48 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Spitzer would have used the Mann Act against an enemy in a New York minute.)
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