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To: AndrewC

1. ID is based in religion. See the Wedge Document.

2. ID being religion, teaching with the intent that the students believe it is practically the definition of of religious proselyting.

3. The record clearly shows that other groups are starting to want what Christians have. They are even suing to get those same privileges.

4. Logical conclusion: ID in schools means more than just ID in schools.

It is a very short slippery slope.


454 posted on 04/28/2008 1:23:53 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Step 2 does not follow from step 1 since you relate ID to religion then equate ID to religion without proof. The Declaration of Independance is based upon religion, but I know of noone who equates the Declaration to a religion.

Your third step equates ID with Christians by implication yet the record clearly shows that Muslims believe in ID and further, it is often pointed out by Darwinists that Christians believe in Darwinism. Therefore it is erroneous to exclusively equate ID and Christians.

Step 4 therefore does not follow.

Fallacies do not have length as a requirement. They are simply fallacies.

463 posted on 04/28/2008 2:23:51 PM PDT by AndrewC (You should go see "Expelled")
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To: antiRepublicrat
ID is based in religion

If ID is religion, then personal belief in ID outside the classroom is protected by the First Amendment.

The emails sent by some of Gonzalez' colleagues make it clear that they denied him tenure because of beliefs he held, but never brought to the classroom.

ISU is a state actor and the 1A is incorporated to the states. Hope they have deep pockets.

471 posted on 04/28/2008 3:52:29 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (El Nino is climate, La Nina is weather.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

1. ID is based in common sense for many of us, DI or others may see it solely as religious, but I firmly believe most ALSO see the non-explanation of some accidental non-purposeful big bang and what followed, is simply insufficient and ID at least explores a more meaningful theory of our beginning.

2. No it’s not. Just because people reject the above non-explanation of a big bang only means that’s what WE believe! There may be efforts to have evolution replaced but that too is wrong, but that’s not what the vast majority of people want, IMO. I think, from what I’ve seen, most just want both theories to be FREELY discussed. Healthy debate, in science class, in Sunday school, on the town square, on the side walk and in here is a GOOD thing.

3. Ummmm, that would NOT be because of Christians “proselytizing”...the CLEAR record indicates a severe attack on our Christian culture and heritage and a successful one at that!

4. That’s NOT logical at all! We HAD free discussion of God, we even had prayer in school...and oh look! We’re NOT a theocracy, there’s been no Spanish Inquisition...or other such terrible horrors! We managed to survive, and MOST of us have reached our limts with the GOD-HATING LEFT!

Incidentally what we HAVE had since this incessant separation of church and state madness with secular Godless liberals getting their way, is a systematic DEGRADATION of our culture though.

The slippery slope has been breached long ago, but it’s VERY different than what you fear:

As I’ve pointed out, just the mere word ‘Christmas’ is considered so offensive, that the Georgia ACLU threatened our school district with legal action if they didn’t remove it from the school calendar. NO parent was notified, and redictably they foldedlike a tent! VERY UNAmerican to say the very least!!!!

I guess the fact that Christmas is a federal holiday escapes them.

Los Angeles and Las Cruces have crosses in their town’s logos. Baaaaaaad and most offensive, so naturally God-hating secular “progressive” liberals bring legal action to have them removed. If successful of course Las Cruces will most likely need to look into renaming the hundreds of years old town since Las Cruces means “the crosses”!

Kids in Florida had to sing “O Holiday Tree” once again “O Christmas Tree” is just too offensive to foreigners there.

Sadly, there are DOZENS of cases like this all over the country, (and it’s worse in Europe) so the CLEAR evidence is just the precise opposite of what you describe.

Of course some people are fine with it, but most Americans are fed up!

ThomasMore.org

aclj.org

At one time I used to think some of this stuff was snopes, or made up, but it’s not.

Montgomery County Maryland...Notorious liberal enclave...banned santa from lighting the Christmas Tree, ‘cause he might offend the poor muslim kids in town!

THANKFULLY 23 santas showed up!

William and Mary removed a crucifix INSIDE A CHAPEL because it might offend someone!

The idiot president wound up resigning, thankfully so, but...

THIS CHRISTIAN-HATING MADNESS MUST STOP, OR WE’LL LOSE OUR FREEDOMS AND THIS COUNTRY AND OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS AS DESCRIBED BY THE FOUNDING FATHERS!


569 posted on 04/29/2008 4:13:28 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing-----Edmund Burke)
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