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Hillary in Bitterland
NRO ^ | Byron York

Posted on 04/21/2008 7:32:51 AM PDT by obamahorror

This is Clinton country. A new poll from Suffolk University, out today, shows Clinton leading Barack Obama statewide, 52 percent to 42 percent. But in the southwestern part of the state, here in the Mon Valley, Clinton has a huge lead, 74 percent to 17 percent.

And people here aren’t just for Clinton. They’re against Obama. At this Hillary rally, no one expresses any outright hostility to Obama, but they tell me over and over again that they just don’t like him, that they don’t care for him, that they don’t trust him. They view him as inexperienced and not ready to be president, and they think he’s selling them a bill of goods.

“I could tell you I’m going build you a house, and I’m going to do everything you want,” a man named Bernie tells me. “I'm going to put everything in it just the way you want it. And then you give me your money, and you find out I'm not a carpenter.”

The new Suffolk poll found that found that 46 percent of Democrats surveyed in southwest Pennsylvania would either vote for John McCain or would be undecided if their candidate doesn’t win. They’re the people here tonight. When I ask whether they will vote for Obama if he wins the Democratic nomination, the answers are quick:

“If Hillary doesn’t win, I’m not voting.”

“No.”

“I will not.”

“I’d have to debate myself on that one.”

Others said they would reluctantly cast votes for Obama. But at least half of the people to whom I speak say they simply would not vote for him in the general election.

--------------------------- Operation Chaos!!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; byronyork; democratparty; democrats; elections; hillary; obama; obamahillary; obomber; operationchaos; pa2008
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To: Retired Greyhound

Here in OH, I’m beginning to think you are right about OH. If Hillary is the nominee, we probably lose. But if it’s Obama, McCain will win this handily.


21 posted on 04/21/2008 8:14:17 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: stevio
We need to vote obama in tomorrow’s primary. She should not take it by such a big margin

Honesty is STILL the best policy.

If she wins big tomorrow, they can't force her out and she may well by the nominee in the end.

We can beat her easier.

Polls show up to 90% of blacks are voting for the "O" man - and they will vote for him NO MATTER WHAT = we have to recognize that. They are not supporting him because of his stand on issues. He could announce that he works for the Devil himself, and they will still vote for him BECAUSE he's black...they say so themselves.

If you're not going to vote for either of them in Nov. = be honest. Don't fiddle with the vote.

22 posted on 04/21/2008 8:16:07 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: don'tbedenied
Vote Obama!

NO!

See posts 9 and 22.

Hillary is scary, but obama is frightening. We cannot take the chance. Wake up, folks.

23 posted on 04/21/2008 8:20:28 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: LS

Hillary will win OH, period. McCain has a chance to beat Obama there, but it’s not going to be ‘handily’.

Those sheep need to be reminded over and over how dangerous Obama is.


24 posted on 04/21/2008 8:20:40 AM PDT by obamahorror (Obama)
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To: maine-iac7

90% of blacks vote democrat every election. He is the best face of the democrat party. If she wins the primary, she wins the election.


25 posted on 04/21/2008 8:24:07 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: maine-iac7
they will still vote for him BECAUSE he's black

I think you can call that tribalism.

26 posted on 04/21/2008 8:25:06 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: stevio
90% of blacks vote democrat every election.

and they're coming out in droves this election - you'll see the biggest black vote in history...you may be willing to gamble that we'd beat him in NOV. - but it's a very dangerous gamble.

If he's the nominee, there will be a record turnout of blacks voting - who will stay home and not vote, if hillary gets the nomination...(after they get through the "Quiet Riots" -)

Add to them not voting, if hillary is the nominee, all the others that say they won't vote for her - and we can beat her easier.

and in the worst case scenario = if she should win, as bad as she is - it will be MUCH worse if Obama and his puppeteers get control.

Obama is a mere, empty headed, snot-nosed, whitey hating punk who has been carefully polished into a programmed puppet. As long as he has his Q-cards to spout from, he sounds like he knows something. Every time he speaks on his own, he shows who he really is - and isn't.

It's the strings we must follow = back to his puppet masters - to see who is really in the driver's seat.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

27 posted on 04/21/2008 8:34:03 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: maine-iac7
I'm assuming you're from Maine. Here in Pa. voter turnout in the Philly area alone is around 110%, that's not an exaggeration. Clintons have there political machine in place, the MSM will cozy up to them again if she wins/steals the primary election.
28 posted on 04/21/2008 8:39:06 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: goldstategop

“That’s good news. Pennsylvania has gone Dem in the past two presidential elections so if blue collar Democrats are ticked off by Obama, the Democrats may blow what should be a year when they ought to reclaim the White House. Stay tuned. “

So we want Hillary as the Dem nominee because Pennsylvania Dems are ticked off at Obama? And the RATS won in PA for the last 2 presidential runs?

No one sees the folly in Op Chaos? We want Obama as the nominee, not Hillary. She will win all the states she is supposed to. Obama will win.... 5? Maybe?

Obama is the next coming of McGovern. Hillary is Al Gore. Which means she is going to steal Ohio.


29 posted on 04/21/2008 8:40:13 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Shouldn't the libs love a Hunter Thompson ticket in 08?)
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To: obamahorror
"Others said they would reluctantly cast votes for Obama. But at least half of the people to whom I speak say they simply would not vote for him in the general election."

"Some liberal commentators have downplayed the effect of Barack Obama's recent fundraising speech in San Francisco. But that's wishful thinking. Along with the revelations about Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright, his remarks in San Francisco will haunt him not only in the upcoming primaries in Pennsylvania, Indiana, Kentucky and West Virginia, but also in the general election against John McCain, assuming he gets the Democratic nomination."

"To win in November, a Democratic presidential candidate has to carry most of the industrial heartland states that stretch from Pennsylvania to Missouri. That becomes even more imperative if a Democrat can't carry Florida -- and because of his relative weakness in South Florida, Obama is unlikely to do so against McCain. Ruy Teixeira and I have calculated that in the heartland states, a Democratic presidential candidate has to win 45 to 48 percent of the white working-class vote. In some states, like West Virginia and Kentucky, the percentage is well over a majority."

You can't win a general election with a coalition of America hating Bitter African- Americans and America hating Bitter white liberal elitist billionaires/millionaires, who buy brie, Chardonnay, and expensive rat politicians like the elitist Hussein Obama/Samma.

"Bitter Gate: the gift that keeps on giving!!!

" Crackerquiddick ~ Bitter Gate " and “Wright is wrong Gate” are huge problems for the elitist would be Sneerer in Chief, Hussein Obamasnob!!

For an inside look at the real Hussein Obama and his elite hate America backers at San Francisco where Hussein Obama made his elitist remarks,

Go here to see the thread with all The Pictures posted and Here to see another thread about this meeting of elite left wing America haters.

There are some very interesting pictures and comments re the actual meeting on those threads.

"Hussein Obama’s big mouth, small brain, condescending, America-hating, grandkid-baby-terminating, born-alive-infant-abandoning, America-hating-wife, kooky-moonbat-America-hating-pastor, racially-divisive, race-baiting, crotch-saluting, America-flag-disrespecting ... chickens ... coming home to roost ...!"

Behold the would be Sneerer in Chief!


30 posted on 04/21/2008 8:50:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Cicero

You know you need to be coherent on an attack on Obama. I’ve been trying to point out the guy is a flat out socialists who grew up working for the radical Saul Alinsky.

You can say that leftists are aligned with Islamic radicals against America but to call the guy both just appears ignorant and will persuade no one.

People will have plenty of time to learn about Obama’s elitist socialism. It’s only starting now.


31 posted on 04/21/2008 1:40:48 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: maine-iac7

Elitist emulating libs/leftists and black voters are not enough to win.
Even Dem strategists admit as much.

Obama is not ‘empty headed’ but in fact a well spoken representative of the marxists tenets of materialism. He spelled it out exactly practically calling PA voters idiots clinging to the opiate of religion.

He was one breath away from calling ‘their’ faith a drug they cling to but of course his anti-American black liberation theology church is above all that.


32 posted on 04/21/2008 1:44:39 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: romanesq

I don’t know why he can’t be both. Arab nationalism in this century was a marriage of radical Islamism with communism, particularly in the biggest incubator of ideas, Egypt.

Yes, I’m familiar with the radical Communist ties. But I’m also familiar with his ties to Odinga and other Muslims abroad. There is an alliance of convenience in this country between the Islamists and the leftists, as well. Said, Chomsky, etc.


33 posted on 04/21/2008 2:03:27 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: stevio
turnout in the Philly area alone is around 110%,

Well, of course, I see the Gov, Rendell and Chelsea are going to get out the gay vote, so it may be higher this time... ;o)


34 posted on 04/21/2008 2:58:44 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: obamahorror

“Seeing the changing attitude towards Obama on freerepublic is a good indicator. Some freepers warmed up to him during the GOP primary fight, at least they thought he’s just a lightweight who would do no harm as a president.

Now, with all the stuff coming out, Obama is simply a nighmarish horror for many freepers. Many freepers are now believing He is more dangerous than Hillbeast.”

The truth will set up FREE.


35 posted on 04/21/2008 3:24:42 PM PDT by WOSG (Gameplan: Obama beats Hillary, McCain beats Obama, conservatives beat RINOs)
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