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Undecided superdelegates don't feel bound by primaries
ap.google.com ^ | 04/20/08 | STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

Posted on 04/20/2008 9:08:35 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

WASHINGTON (AP) — Many of the Democratic superdelegates who are still undecided say the most important factor in their decision is simple — they just want a winner in November.

Problem is, after nearly four months of primaries and caucuses in 46 states, territories and the District of Columbia, they still aren't sure who that is, don't seem be in any hurry to make up their minds and aren't interested in any artificial process that might force them to choose between Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Most of the more than 100 undecided superdelegates who discussed their decision-making with The Associated Press in the past two weeks agreed that the primaries and caucuses do matter — whether it's who has the most national delegates or the candidate who won their state or congressional district. But few said the primaries will be the biggest factor in their decision.

"I think it's really important that we keep our eye on the prize, and the prize is the win in November," said Gail Rasmussen, an undecided superdelegate from Oregon.

That's good news for Clinton, who cannot catch Obama in delegates won in the few remaining primaries and caucuses.

Obama has been arguing for months that the superdelegates would be overturning the will of the voters if they don't nominate the candidate who has won the most pledged delegates. He has a 164-delegate lead in that category. Clinton, meanwhile, has argued that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment.

Many of the undecided superdelegates say they don't want to be perceived as elite insiders, cutting backroom deals to select a nominee. But that doesn't mean they're ready to forfeit their status.

"The way the system is set up, the superdelegates are able to weigh in because we are the most experienced people in the party," said Blake Johnson, an undecided superdelegate from Alaska. "We are the ones who have been part of the party the longest and keep it running on a day-to-day basis."

There will be nearly 800 superdelegates at the party's national convention in Denver this summer. They are the party and elected officials who automatically attend the convention and are free to support whomever they choose. They are in high demand now that neither Clinton nor Obama can clinch the nomination without them.

Clinton leads in superdelegate endorsements, 258-232, according to the latest tally by the AP. However, Obama has been eating away at her lead for much of the past two months, picking up 84 percent of the superdelegate endorsements since Super Tuesday.

About 250 superdelegates have told the AP they are undecided or uncommitted. About 60 more will be selected at state party conventions and meetings this spring.

AP reporters across the nation contacted the undecideds and asked them how they plan to choose. Of those, 117 agreed to discuss the decision-making process.

_About a third said the most important factor will be the candidate who, they believe, has the best chance of beating Republican John McCain in the general election.

_One in 10 said the biggest factor will be the candidate with the most pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses.

_One in 10 said what matters most is who won their state or congressional district in the primary or caucus.

_The rest cited multiple factors or parochial issues.

Most undecided superdelegates surveyed said they hope the nomination is settled before the party's convention. However, by more than a 2-to-1 margin, they said they oppose any formal mechanism, such as a separate primary or caucus, for the superdelegates to decide the nomination.

"I think that is changing the rules in the middle of the process," said Rep. Dan Boren of Oklahoma. "Obviously there are some problems with the process; there need to be some reforms made. Frankly, I would favor the people making the decision rather than insiders and party bosses."

Many undecided superdelegates refused to discuss their decision-making process, showing discomfort with the subject. Eighty-nine undecided superdelegates didn't return repeated phone calls or e-mails in the past two weeks, and 42 refused to discuss their decision when they were contacted.

"If I answer any of those (questions), people might be able to divine which way I am leaning," said Wayne Kinney, an undecided superdelegate from Oregon.

Even some experienced pols demurred.

"I'm not saying anything," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, an Illinois superdelegate and a former aide to President Clinton. "There's no value to it."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; operationchaos; primaries; superdelegates

1 posted on 04/20/2008 9:08:35 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3
"The way the system is set up, the superdelegates are able to weigh in because we are the most experienced people in the party," said Blake Johnson, an undecided superdelegate from Alaska. "We are the ones who have been part of the party the longest and keep it running on a day-to-day basis."

At least the superdelegates' views are consistent with how they perceive the role of the government in the life of the individual.

2 posted on 04/20/2008 9:21:15 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

We’ll see if they disenfanchise the will of the liberal voters.....more popcorn pleae....


3 posted on 04/20/2008 9:27:12 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: TornadoAlley3
The bidding for a superdelegate's vote starts at $250,000 and an ambassadorship - and to a fun country too, one with parties and a good nightlife, not one with flies crawling on people's eyes.
4 posted on 04/20/2008 9:34:15 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

How many superdelagates does Hillary have FBI files on?


5 posted on 04/20/2008 9:41:58 AM PDT by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: TornadoAlley3
"The way the system is set up, the superdelegates are able to weigh in because we are the most experienced people in the party," said Blake Johnson, an undecided superdelegate from Alaska. "We are the ones who have been part of the party the longest and keep it running on a day-to-day basis."

The solution to the problem should be obvious to all. Simply change the party name from "democRatic Party" to "Faux Democratic Party". The description is more accurate, and it has some chic French verbiage in it to reflect the elitist foundations of the party.

gitmo

6 posted on 04/20/2008 9:49:03 AM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

7 posted on 04/20/2008 9:57:33 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I always rely on God and Guns in that order)
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To: TornadoAlley3

“Many of the undecided superdelegates say they don’t want to be perceived as elite insiders, cutting backroom deals to select a nominee”

But isn’t this “perception”, in all truth, the EXACT reason for their existence?

Why else even HAVE “Superdelegates” - who can make their choices above and beyond the votes of the primaries - IF NOT to shape such a deal in the even of a deadlocked convention?

If they weren’t chosen to be “elite insiders”, what were they chosen for?

- John


8 posted on 04/20/2008 9:59:44 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: TornadoAlley3

That’s because they have already decided.


9 posted on 04/20/2008 10:05:01 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

So why the hell should people bother to vote if it will rsult in the delegates choosing the president? This system needs a big reform all right, like discontinue the process.


10 posted on 04/20/2008 10:08:48 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: TornadoAlley3

Translation: Which candidate will make them the best offer?


11 posted on 04/20/2008 10:18:37 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: TornadoAlley3
AH ... I love this Superdelegate nonsense the Dems came up with. It shows that these proponents of egalitarianism and all things socialist, are really elitists at heart who do not trust even their own voters.
Ya got to love it!
12 posted on 04/20/2008 10:23:16 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: skimask
The super delegates had better choose Obama if they know whats good for them.

A supporter of the presidential challenger Raila Odinga (OBAMAS FIRST COUSIN, WHO HE CAMPAIGNED FOR IN KENYA IN 2006) in Kibera, a sprawling slum near the capital, Nairobi.

Odinga supporters riot in December 2007(ODINGA IS BARAK OBMAMS FIRST COUSIN, OBAMA CAMPAIGNED FOR HIM IN KENYA IN 2006)

13 posted on 04/20/2008 10:25:35 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: skimask
How many superdelagates does Hillary have FBI files on?

How many Illinois senators does Hillary have FBI files on?

14 posted on 04/20/2008 10:29:33 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Image hosted by Photobucket.com well... they wouldn't be very super if they had to obey the laws of mere delegates, now would they??? 8^)

que pic of the South Park fag saying Super!!!

15 posted on 04/20/2008 10:51:32 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: TornadoAlley3
"The way the system is set up, the superdelegates are able to weigh in because we are the most experienced people in the party," said Blake Johnson, an undecided superdelegate from Alaska. "We are the ones who have been part of the party the longest and keep it running on a day-to-day basis."

Using that logic, I expect the superdelegates will vote for Robert Byrd. Certainly, those words can't indicate strong support for a newcomer like Barack Obama.

16 posted on 04/20/2008 10:59:15 AM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: Rome2000

Thats what Detroit, Philly, Denver, Buffalo.. will look like. I’m heading for the hills


17 posted on 04/20/2008 11:21:11 AM PDT by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: Americanexpat

As you can plainly see, the votes of the people are less important than these self appointed arrogant superdelegates and what they can get for themselves for their vote.


18 posted on 04/20/2008 12:51:23 PM PDT by chiefqc
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