Pope resolution passes after "life" language removed

Politico ^ | April 17, 2008 | Martin Kady

[It's me]

Brownback continues to disappoint me.

[Cicero]

I’ve been fighting abortion since before Roe v. Wade. I just don’t think this would have been a useful gesture.

[NewJerseyJoe]

Hey goldstategop. I would love to see a GOP politician use some form of your comment in a public speech against a Dem opponent -- it would be dynamite, and the kind of "red meat" that conservatives haven't heard since the days of Ronaldus Magnus.

Example: "It would be nice if my opponent exhibited the same support for the lives of unborn children, as he does for protecting the lives of terrorists." KNOCKOUT!

[madprof98]

Know who will read the resolution that passed and think it's really moving? NOBODY. Know who might have found it worth pondering that the Democrats would fight the resolution that did not pass? FAITHFUL CATHOLICS.

But, of course, nobody but blog groupies will now know that there was a dust-up over the whole business, will they? Thank you, Sam Brownback. (It makes you hope President Obama will send the whole bunch of these worthless "conservatives" to the ovens.)

[Know et al]

I wonder if the phrase Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is just as offensive to them as all human life? If so, they are offended by the Declaration of Independence.

[Elvina]

...she objected to language about how the pope values "each and every human life."

Only someone under the influence of pure evil could object to that mild language. If he had said he values the lives of all mice used for medical testing or all minks used for fur, I'm sure it would have been fine with her.

[upchuck]

Deja vu from another post on this topic:

It’s this kind of idiotic crap that will bring down our country.

That she and her fellow mentally diseased lib friends think it’s really cool to mock the most revered religious head of state in the world is truly despicable.

[Hamilcar_Barca]

Brownback should have fought this. This would have made a great issue. I was ready to write a letter to the editor of the local paper about this but now after this cave in I’m not sure. I found the Democrats’ actions insulting and I’m not even Catholic. When Senators Obama or Clinton come around pandering for votes this fall Catholic voters should remember what the Democrats really think of them.

[the invisib1e hand]

whether you’re right or wrong I can’t guess, but fighting the tide here is...like a voice crying in the wilderness.

[Cicero]

Well, I don’t know. The Pope is making a good will visit to the US, and the question is whether Brownback would be doing the right thing to involve him in a political fight. The Pope himself is quite capable of making an issue of it if he chooses to.

To tell the truth, I’d rather hear it from the Pope, which we have in several of his talks so far. I thought his speech and President Bush’s at the White House were what people should be hearing. And, I expect, the coming visit to Ground Zero may be the crown of his visit.

I do know what I think about Barbara Boxer, at all events.

[the invisib1e hand]

And, I expect, the coming visit to Ground Zero may be the crown of his visit.

I'll be there.

I don't "feel" too much -- a little bit of extra grace in the City, and of course the "made to order" weather, but I have some deep sense that this is a historic time in eternity (if there is such a thing) and that the Holy Father, THIS Pope, visiting Ground Zero, right now, is somehow exactly what has to happen.

I don't care what happens after this, how ugly things might get. I think Civilization has bottomed.

It is springtime after all.

Boxer's a pig.

[NYer]

Three Senate Republican aides involved in the issue say that Boxer objected to the "life" language, which Democrats see as an implicit reference to the Catholic church's opposition to abortion. Senate Democratic leadership offices declined to comment but referred questions to Boxer's office, which has not responded to Politico's inquiries this morning.
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[redtetrahedron]

There’s already a transcript on the record with Feinstein or Boxer saying that a baby isn’t human until the parents take it home from the hospital.

So, when exactly does it magically become human? When they get it through the revolving door? When they get it off of hospital grounds? After they get it home?

[MrB]

“After they get it home?”
Boxer said just that:

http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/pba/notansweringboxersantorum.html

Santorum: But I would like to ask you a question. You agree, once that child is born, is separated from the mother, that that child is protected by the Constitution and cannot be killed? Do you agree with that?

Boxer: I would make this statement: That this Constitution, as it currently is — some of you want to amend it to say that life begins at conception. I think when you bring your baby home, when your baby is born — and there is no such thing as partial-birth — the baby belongs to your family and has all the rights. But I am not willing to amend the Constitution to say that a fetus is a person, which I know you would.