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Actually, no I do not where that is muawiyah. Your tone and assertion regarding me (and if I am wrong I apologize) are the type of thing I am talking about.

...and there is no apology here Mamzelle. I believe that this sect/cult should be investigated and that any crimes should be prosecuted to the max.

But, with all due respect, the fact that there are a number of pregnant teenage girls does not mean that laws (at least of this day and time) have necessarily been broken. If you are going to arrest large numbers of people because teenage girls are pregnant, you better be prepared to shut down the entire inner cities, large swaths of the suburbs, and large tracts of rural America tomorrow.

There are hundreds of thousands of them all around us...which is sadly and tragically a sign of the decline in our moral values and the laws that used to support them, and public policy that used to seek avidly to deter such conditions. Today public welfare laws and public sex education leans much further towards encouraging it. Which is a societal tragedy itself.

Having said all of that, I am just very concerned that the authorities may have acted prematurley and opened the door for lawsuits and legal appeals to what they have done. If that occurs, it will end up adding more money to these people's coffers and make it harder to do investigations in the future. And that would be much worse for the girls in there.

To date the girl has not been found, and it has been shown that the man she was alluding to was apparently in Arizona the whole time.

I hope they find the girl and show that her story was accurate...but I do not hope that over the rights of these other people even if I vehmenently disagree with their theology and religion. The authorities need to do excellent investigative work and have very strong cases in matters like these.

the fact that there are a number of pregnant teenage girls does not mean that laws (at least of this day and time) have necessarily been broken

OK, I'll bite. But what about the fact that almost all the teenage girls are either pregnant or have been, combined with the fact that there are no teenage boys older than 12 on the compound, and a bunch of 50 year old men who profess a believe in polygamy and marrying women young.

-paridel

The pregnant 13 year olds were discovered in the course of investigating a complaint. Earlier a Freeper explained that under Texas law, and in accordance with relevant Supreme Court decisions, cops can take notice of "other crimes", or possible crimes, in front of their nose, when executing a search warrant.

In Texas a pregnant 13 year old is prima facie evidence of a crime having been commited.

Anyway, I could not help but take note of where you said you live and where I know of a particularly abusive division of the same sort of thing that FLDS is into.

It doesn't get any better towards the East in Idaho.

Regarding the guy, there's no evidence he was in Arizona on the day the girl was beaten and had her ribs broken. She appears to have made the "call" AFTER having gotten the number of a battered women's shelter in St. Angelo (I believe it's called) where she/they had gone to have her treated.

These groups typically let you out to see a doctor in case of a broken bone. Otherwise, you're on your own. Mr. Barlow, however, is going to have to come up with evidence he WASN'T in Texas.