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To: Dr. Eckleburg
God is all holy, and God tempts no man. At the same time, all men are fallen and incapable of choosing righteousness

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Oh no you don't You don't get to gloss/skip over that. You are trapped. You can't go any further until you explain HOW ON EARTH man fell WITHOUT a free will. Please do explain to one and all why your Holy God created a man who would sin. It can't be done without either twisting and contorting worse than a pretzel or admitting that man does have a free will to choose God's offer of salvation.

265 posted on 04/23/2008 11:45:29 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

Do you actually believe Adam was the same before the fall as after the fall?


268 posted on 04/23/2008 12:12:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: AmericaUnited; Dr. Eckleburg

***You can’t go any further until you explain HOW ON EARTH man fell WITHOUT a free will.***

Adam and eve had the free will to choose either. They choose sin. Our free will is now corrupted.


273 posted on 04/23/2008 12:41:54 PM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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