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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why our politicians are encouraging illegal immigration.

What strikes me about this article is the presentation of a theory (i.e. "estimates", "doesn't fully tally", "rough estimate", "no firm figures", "Social Security does not know", "probably", etc.) as fact (i.e. article title "Illegal immigrants pay billions in taxes")

Is there anyone out there with any experience or first hand knowledge on this subject that could shed some light on the validity of these claims?

1 posted on 04/15/2008 7:48:47 PM PDT by Is2C
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Well, then, they should save themselves the money and GO HOME!


2 posted on 04/15/2008 7:50:16 PM PDT by Rob112586 ("...a decrease in the quantity of legislation generally means an increase in the quality of life.")
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I’d rather they pay them in Mexico.


3 posted on 04/15/2008 7:52:11 PM PDT by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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Illegal aliens cost billions more by:

1. leaching off of our hospitals and social service programs
2. committing additional crimes and taking up jail space
3. alien children, anchor baby education
4. taking jobs from Americans and depressing wages.

Funny how reliably liberal cnn never mentions this


4 posted on 04/15/2008 7:54:12 PM PDT by Rosemont
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They don’t even know how many illegal alien invaders are in our country. How in the world can they ever say how much they pay in taxes.

It’s a sure bet they cost more than they contribute.


6 posted on 04/15/2008 7:58:14 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (Vote for the liars, they promise you more of other people's stuff.)
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I’m guessing Jose and Maria and all the bebés cost the country a whole lot more than 9 billion. We still lose and they win.


7 posted on 04/15/2008 7:58:37 PM PDT by infantrywhooah (Hold your nose and vote in November. Even McCain is better than the alternatives)
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It is pure BS.


10 posted on 04/15/2008 8:01:31 PM PDT by kabar
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’$428 billion total but only $75 billion in wages? ‘

Can I not tell the government I don’t make any money to?

11 posted on 04/15/2008 8:02:38 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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Most illegals are "off the books" and have no withholdings.

This article is a steaming load.

12 posted on 04/15/2008 8:04:58 PM PDT by Prokopton
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I don’t know, but California alone is spending at least 9 billion a year on education and health care for illegals.


13 posted on 04/15/2008 8:05:33 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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It can’t be measured if its illegal...


15 posted on 04/15/2008 8:08:32 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Uh oh. My BS alarm just went off!


16 posted on 04/15/2008 8:09:19 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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"Ford, who has studied taxes and immigration, says a majority of economists agree that illegal immigrants are a net benefit for the U.S. economy.

There is no amount of million man math that can be used to convince me these folks are a net benefit to us.

Everything from free birthing experiences for anchor babies and free welfare for same, free education, healthcare and so on convince me otherwise.

17 posted on 04/15/2008 8:09:49 PM PDT by umgud
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A couple of years ago the LA Times was claiming illegal Latino immigrants made a net positive contribution to the California economy of something like $10 billion. Which leads to the following questions:

1) Using the same math, what’s the net contribution of white people, or Asians, or blacks?

2) If every group is a net positive, why do we have a budget deficit in California?


18 posted on 04/15/2008 8:09:57 PM PDT by blue state conservative
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Illegal immigrants pay billions in taxes

This is true and they're just as unlikely to recover any of it in the form of SS as any of us is. But they're still illegal.
20 posted on 04/15/2008 8:12:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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The bad news is that they SHOULD be paying hundreds of billions in taxes.


21 posted on 04/15/2008 8:12:56 PM PDT by reg45
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Only if they have stolen some American's Identity.

22 posted on 04/15/2008 8:13:30 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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I’ll gladly pay more to keep my family safe, preserve my heritage and culture and see our laws enforced. As long as it means the illegals are rounded up and deported.


24 posted on 04/15/2008 8:16:25 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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I come for visit, get treated regal, So I stay, who care I illegal?

I cross border, poor and broke, Take bus, see employment folk. Nice man treat me good in there, Say I need to see welfare.

Welfare say, "You come no more, We send cash right to your door."

Welfare checks, they make you wealthy, Medicaid it keep you healthy!

By and by, I got plenty money, Thanks to you, American dummy. Write to friends in motherland, Tell them come as fast as you can.

They come in rags and Chebby trucks, I buy big house with welfare bucks. They come here, we live together, More welfare checks, it gets better!

Fourteen families they moving in, But neighbor's patience wearing thin. Finally, white guy moves away, Now I buy his house, and then I say,

"Find more aliens for house to rent." And in the yard I put a tent. Send for family (they just trash), But they, too, draw the welfare cash!

Everything is mucho good, And soon we own the neighborhood. We have hobby--it's called breeding, Welfare pay for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist? Wife need pills? We get free! We got no bills! American crazy! He pay all year, To keep welfare running here.

We think America darn good place! Too darn good for the white man race. If they no like us, they can go, Got lots of room in Mexico

25 posted on 04/15/2008 8:18:16 PM PDT by skimask (Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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I should have become an economist. I mean, in what other job can you just come up with crazy-ass predictions and unsubstantiated guesstimates and still be considered an “expert”?

Except for a job being a political pundit, that is...


26 posted on 04/15/2008 8:18:26 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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C’mon over here and do your thing, coyote.


27 posted on 04/15/2008 8:20:09 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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