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Loose Lips and Democratic Ships
The New York Times ^ | April 15, 2008 | E. J. Dionne Jr.

Posted on 04/15/2008 12:01:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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E.J. Dionne tries to spin Obama's remarks: What a surprise!
1 posted on 04/15/2008 12:01:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One Marxist overlord covers for another.


2 posted on 04/15/2008 12:03:51 PM PDT by Argus (Obama: All turban and no goats.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Controversial, but broadly true."
Ahh...how's your circulation amongst the po' folks ?
3 posted on 04/15/2008 12:05:37 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama like any good wacked out lib “clings” to his sociology witchcraft.


4 posted on 04/15/2008 12:05:42 PM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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“...they might have seemed mildly controversial but broadly true.”

They just don’t get it!


5 posted on 04/15/2008 12:08:00 PM PDT by TheBlueMax (A nation that believes in nothing will always lose to an enemy that believes in something.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I eat any more popcorn I’m going to explode! This whole episode has been priceless!


6 posted on 04/15/2008 12:08:19 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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“If Obama’s comments about working-class voters had come from the mouth of anyone except a candidate, they might have seemed mildly controversial but broadly true...”

Except for the fact that they aren’t true.

When these people aren’t sipping on ice water in Hell, I wonder who will be considered privileged?

Prayers for the blind to see the light.


7 posted on 04/15/2008 12:11:03 PM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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It is amazing they are trying to justify these remarks. In context, they actually look much worse to me. He is presuming that lack of economic progress has made PA people narrow minded and ignorant.

This is NOT analysis. It is amazing ignorance. It also represents the type of generalization that form the core of racisim.


8 posted on 04/15/2008 12:11:57 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: TheBlueMax

“They just don’t get it”

That’s the same thing that the left says about the “bitter” people -

they just aren’t smart enough to put the elite leftists in charge.


9 posted on 04/15/2008 12:12:55 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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I think E.J Dionne confuses perception with reality. The truth of the matter is the Democrats do look down on folks who are not that well-heeled. And the contempt they have for average Americans choices just leaves people cold. Its like the Democrats have forgotten Americans are more than just the subset of people living in New York and Los Angeles.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 04/15/2008 12:20:26 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Barack Obama violated two elementary rules of political campaigning. A candidate should never play the role of a political scientist or sociologist analyzing a key electoral swing group from afar and should never dissect the motivations of less privileged people when talking to a group of privileged people.

If Obama's comments about working-class voters had come from the mouth of anyone except a candidate, they might have seemed mildly controversial but broadly true.

So Obama's remarks were factually true, but never should have been said by him; especially on the campaign trail.

Such talk is apparently alright when done in smoky back rooms, or over brandy and cigars. I get it.

11 posted on 04/15/2008 12:27:11 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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EJ's pap is a prime example of why the NY Slimes is heading into the elite septic tank of failures.

"Hussein Obama’s big mouth, small brain, condescending, America-hating, grandkid-baby-terminating, born-alive-infant-abandoning, America-hating-wife, kooky-moonbat-America-hating-pastor, racially-divisive, race-baiting, crotch-saluting, America-flag-disrespecting ... chickens ... coming home to roost ...!"


12 posted on 04/15/2008 12:29:12 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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Ah, EJ baby, you’re so dense! You can spin and babble all you want, but you won’t even address the real issues.


13 posted on 04/15/2008 12:30:04 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama: You dumb ignorant "typical white people" should learn to say "God D--n America!")
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Well, not in front of the help, you know, old boy.


14 posted on 04/15/2008 1:11:41 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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15 posted on 04/15/2008 1:14:23 PM PDT by weegee (Religion is the opiate of the masses MARX1843 They get bitter, they cling to...religion OBAMA2008)
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Does this guy ever get out of D.C? These comments ,no matter who said them are not mildly controversial, they are highly OFFENSIVE.
16 posted on 04/15/2008 1:26:17 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
From the column

It has been sickening over the years to watch Republicans, who always rally to the aid of the country's wealthiest citizens

Its pretty sickening that the wealthiest citizens rally to the aid of democrats.

Highly unlikely there were any "common man" type people attending that SanFran event. I would like to see a name list of these donors. Where do they get off assuming they are my proxies?

17 posted on 04/15/2008 1:41:20 PM PDT by OeOeO
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To: goldstategop

This is a true statement. But the cities of posh ignorance towards the American people are Washington DC and NYC. Both cities control the empire of America from a political and financial aspect. It is not forgivable, but understandable that both cities and immediate suburbs are not suffering from high unemployment or lack of anything. I am not resentful of a good job and life, I am resentful that it is these people’s jobs to survey the population, meet with individuals on the street and execute the will of the people. It does appear that the empire of America and those at the top look at the population as useful idiots and serfs. They have forgotten that We the People still can dethrone them, empire or no empire.


18 posted on 04/15/2008 4:56:51 PM PDT by quant5
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"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Or you could just blame it on "Whitey".

19 posted on 04/15/2008 5:01:17 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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20 posted on 04/15/2008 6:24:51 PM PDT by 4Liberty (bitter gun owner)
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