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Coming Soon: Thought Crime, Maine-Style!
DBKP ^ | April 15, 2008 | mondoreb

Posted on 04/15/2008 11:21:40 AM PDT by mondoreb

New Bill in Maine Makes “Visual Sexual Aggression” a Crime

It might be 2008 in the rest of the USA, but in Maine, it’s 1984.

A new bill in the Pine Tree State would make it a crime to peer at children in public. It’s been asserted that some legislators can justify making any action a crime–as long as they add the magic words “for the children” to the mix.

This Maine bill adds proof to that assertion.

State Rep. Dawn Hill, D-York, is the head cheerleader for a bill only a fan of police state actions could love.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: mindcrime; repeat; sexualaggression; thoughtcrime; visual
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To: TNCMAXQ

“I wonder how many “moderate” for-the-children type voters think this kind of legislation is just fine—until maybe one of them is picked up for just innocently looking in the wrong direction.”

How many times have you been lost in thought and just stared off in a particular direction? You know, staring, but not seeing? When I’m problem solving I’ve been known to do that. I guess if I’m in a park in Maine, and do that, I better be careful I don’t have a child in my field of view.

I’ve all but given up. The younger generation has been, in general, taught in liberal schools. They are very accepting of infringements on their freedom in the name of the common good. I’m 50, and hope that I don’t live long enough to see the United States of America fully morph into Socialist States of Amerika. (We are darn close, I’ll tell you that).


21 posted on 04/15/2008 12:20:23 PM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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To: mondoreb
Blocks 99% of UV rays and 100% of “Visual Sexual Aggression” class D felonies.

22 posted on 04/15/2008 12:21:15 PM PDT by Bobalu (What do I know, I'm a Typical White Guy)
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To: Bobalu

“Blocks 99% of UV rays and 100% of “Visual Sexual Aggression” class D felonies.”

Then they’d arrest you if your head was pointed in the wrong direction and you could have been looking at a child.

Geez, they’ve made it so you don’t dare hug or touch a child that isn’t your own, now you can’t look at them. Must do wonders for kids.


23 posted on 04/15/2008 12:25:04 PM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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To: mondoreb

Wait till those 15 year olds who look like they are 23 are made up and dressed up to look older, and sent by cops to bars to meet their quota!

I could also imagine a couple of rascally lasses deciding to see if they could get a guy arrested for fun.


24 posted on 04/15/2008 12:29:47 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
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To: TNCMAXQ
I wonder how many “moderate” for-the-children type voters think this kind of legislation is just fine

All of them. The pavlovian response regarding anything fo-de-chirins is mind boggling.

25 posted on 04/15/2008 12:36:25 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: mondoreb
I don't support this bill, because the crime is too vague and could be interpreted to sweep in normal conduct.

But I understand the motivation. I was at the playground one warm summer day with my kids when a single middle age guy walked up with a camera and started taking pictures of the kids, especially the boys. I told my kids to stay away and he moved on when he realized I had him made. I would definitely be ticked by one of those creeps hanging around a restroom my kids were using.

26 posted on 04/15/2008 12:45:47 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: brownsfan

So the next time I’m in maine and there’s a kid screaming his or her head off in the theater and I turn around to glare, the mom could call the cops and I could be arrested, all because I dared to look at her brat. This law gives bad parents a tool to abuse those who don’t appreciate their disregard for other people.


27 posted on 04/15/2008 12:51:15 PM PDT by messierhunter
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To: mondoreb

This would be thrown out as unconstitutionally vague by the first appellate court that looked at it.


28 posted on 04/15/2008 12:56:09 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: mondoreb

This will employ a lot of lawyers.


29 posted on 04/15/2008 1:50:34 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: brownsfan
Geez, they’ve made it so you don’t dare hug or touch a child that isn’t your own, now you can’t look at them. Must do wonders for kids.

This year I’m doing a daily photo blog where I take and post at least one picture every day of the year (FR mail me if you’d like the URL). Last week when I left work I noticed a young girl doing flips on a trampoline, maybe 10 or so years old. I thought that would make a neat photo.

So, I went up to the porch of the house and asked the man there (who it turned out to be her father) if he minded if I took a picture of his daughter. After a quick explanation of who I was it was not much to my surprise that he said he’d rather I didn’t.

I didn’t think much of it then but it started bothering me the more I thought that it has come to this. It is just assumed that I am up to no good when I’m a male adult and children are involved. Really is a shame... (and I bet I would’ve got some great pictures, too!)

30 posted on 04/15/2008 1:57:25 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: ElectricStrawberry

Argghh!

It absolutely was “Minority Report”....the things your brain does when under time pressure...I apologize to all Tom Cruise movie enthusiasts!

oh well...”to err is human...”


31 posted on 04/15/2008 4:17:14 PM PDT by mondoreb
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..would make it a crime to peer at children in public.

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32 posted on 04/15/2008 8:49:55 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: mondoreb
http://drhelen.blogspot.com/2008/04/should-visual-sexual-aggression-be.html

Looks like the reporter for the original story only read the title of the bill and did not read the text of the bill.

Here's a link to the text of the bill:

http://www.mainelegislature.org/legis/bills/billpdfs/LD207901.pdf

And here's the text of the bill:

An Act To Strengthen the Crime of Visual Sexual Aggression against a Child

Be it enacted by the People of the State of Maine as follows:

Sec. 1. 17-A MRSA §256, sub-§1, ¶A, as amended by PL 2005, c. 655, §1, is further amended to read:

A. For the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire or for the purpose of causing affront or alarm, the actor, having in fact attained 18 years of age, in a public or private place, exposes the actor's genitals to another person or causes the other person to expose that person's genitals to the actor and the other person, not the actor's spouse, has not in fact attained 14 years of age. Violation of this paragraph is a Class D crime;

Sec. 2. 17-A MRSA §256, sub-§1, ¶B, as amended by PL 2005, c. 655, §1, is further amended to read:

B. For the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire, the actor, having in fact attained 18 years of age, in a public or private place, exposes the actor's genitals to another person or causes the other person to expose that person's genitals to the actor and the other person, not the actor's spouse, has not in fact attained 12 years of age. Violation of this paragraph is a Class C crime;

SUMMARY

This bill amends the crime of visual sexual aggression against a child to clarify that the crime applies when the exposure occurs in either a public or private place.

The bill has to do with exposing your own genitals or causing the genitals of the minor to be exposed in a public or private place for the purposes of sexual gratification.

That reporter needs to go back and take Journalism 101.

33 posted on 04/16/2008 4:00:31 AM PDT by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: mondoreb

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers.”

Quote by: Ayn Rand, “Atlas Shrugged”, Part II, Chapter 3


34 posted on 04/16/2008 4:41:14 AM PDT by CSM (Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
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