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To: metmom; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ...
The cult separates the children from their mothers. Why no condemnation of them?

This cult does everything the government is being criticized for and to a far worse degree and all we hear are cries of how bad the government is and how it should leave them alone. All we hear is *Send them back. Reunite them with their families.*

Why?

It is very interesting, isn't it? I've had posters flame me for posting against this child rape because "it's a conservative forum, we will lose our 'RIGHTS'". So this "conservatism" is the face of Free Republic to be shown to the world? I don't ping JR because of his health issues, but I wonder what he thinks of this.

We see FReepers condoning this atrocity because they don't like the way the children were rescued and demanding the children be sent back into that hell to be with "mothers" who facilitated the rape.

We are seeing mainstream LDS posters on here trying their best to defend polygamy as a "seperate" thing from what the FLDS practices...and defending the fruit of polygamy in the process.

It truly, truly makes me want to puke!

206 posted on 04/15/2008 4:03:22 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: greyfoxx39

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221 posted on 04/15/2008 4:37:07 PM PDT by Godzilla (We are the land of the free because of the brave.)
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To: greyfoxx39

I understand and agree completely.

My only concern, and there is some valid reasons for concern, is that authorities may have mis-calculated in a couple ways which could result in guilty men getting off. If the case goes south in some way, it will make it much more difficult to get a successful case later.

I pray this does not happen and that true justice be done. IMO, this is nothing less than white-slavery... but it has to be proven to 12 people, beyond reasonable doubt.


292 posted on 04/15/2008 10:24:18 PM PDT by McCoMo (Romans 12:19 ....“Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”)
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To: greyfoxx39

Thank you for clarity in your post!!


304 posted on 04/16/2008 5:44:46 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: greyfoxx39; Balding_Eagle; metmom; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Elsie; Osage Orange; ...
Something that never occurred to me until someone pointed it out a few posts upthread, this may be a bunch of hysterical female posters who are calling me and others perverts for simply questioning the conventional wisdom here on FR. Generally, women are more willing to trade away our freedoms for security than men are, and it may be that simple. As a man I agree with our Founding Fathers view that our freedoms far outweigh anything that happens to the cult. [Balding_Eagle]

The Fifth Amendment & civil & criminal codes includes private property protections, but would you, BE, be citing them left & right as your initial knee-jerk reaction if somebody trespassed upon your private property to rescue children drowning in your backyard pool? (I don't think so)

Stereotype all you want, BE, about male vs. female reactions. I could turn around & conduct the same kind of stereotyping...Example: Something that DOES occur to me is that while home schoolers are absolutely crucial to the present & future America, and that they do yeoman’s work, sometimes home schoolers are also overly sensitive in treating the home as sacred turf...("No Govt tred allowed")...

Hey, if a "home" on your street consisted of women being trafficked for sex, & if it was raided by the feds, I don't think we'd hear from you citing the need to protect the Constitution.

In your posting on this subject since April 12, it took quite a few posts from you before you condemned the victimization of these girls. Instead, it was right off the bat, a link to an article re how the "tip may have been a hoax" and then secondly it was there wasn't any sign of the original complaintant, and something was "fishy." And then it was "constitution" this and "constitution" that.

It is very interesting, isn't it? I've had posters flame me for posting against this child rape because "it's a conservative forum, we will lose our 'RIGHTS'". So this "conservatism" is the face of Free Republic to be shown to the world? We see FReepers condoning this atrocity because they don't like the way the children were rescued and demanding the children be sent back into that hell to be with "mothers" who facilitated the rape.

Well, "rights" include the "rights" of victims to not be subject to continued violation by rapists.

If I told somebody that a suspected rapist's great-grandfather(s) married underaged girls; that same-said grandfathers (most or all of them) did the same; and ditto for suspected rapist's father and brothers...I don't think the first question would be, "Gee, I wonder if the government has weighed in properly on the constitutionality of whether it's 'OK' to wed & bed 13, 14, and 15 yo girls?"

We are seeing mainstream LDS posters on here trying their best to defend polygamy as a "separate" thing from what the FLDS practices...and defending the fruit of polygamy in the process.

Eldorado, 2005-2008 is Deseret 1846-1913 & beyond. Once the media hit the rewind button, these mainstream LDS posters were transported to the Deseret establishment era, and quickly joined the Polygamy Media Militia.

340 posted on 04/16/2008 8:23:09 AM PDT by Colofornian
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