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Women from polygamist sect say officials misled them
Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | 4-15-08 | JENNIFER DOBNER and MICHAEL GRACZYK

Posted on 04/15/2008 10:27:22 AM PDT by Snickering Hound

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To: bonfire

It’s only hard to understand if you want it to be, which you clearly do.

We don’t agree with what the FLDS are doing. But that doesn’t mean that it was right to grab hundreds of kids and tear apart these families, based on a phony warrant.


141 posted on 04/15/2008 2:23:15 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer

AHHH!!! So not EVERYONE is commanded to commit polygamy??

Just some? So who gets to decide?

Wonder who chose the FLDS?? Which state turns a blind eye to polygamy? Wonder why that is? hmmmmm? lol!


142 posted on 04/15/2008 2:23:23 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Even if the mothers aren’t really their mothers (as in the children were taken from another mother and assigned to them) which is SOP in this sect.


143 posted on 04/15/2008 2:24:10 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: conservativegramma
Well looks like I can add lady lawyer to the growing list of mainstream LDS defending polygamy (along with the child abuse) as practiced by the FLDS. But nah, they aren’t Mormon. Riiighttt......

Yeah, that gets me, too! LOL

144 posted on 04/15/2008 2:24:14 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: najida

“Well, yeah, they did lots of stuff in biblical times (like live offerings on the altar) that we don’t do now.”

The Hell we don’t!! Want to see the dem’s I have buried under my house?


145 posted on 04/15/2008 2:28:40 PM PDT by Gator113 (Hey Obama, "I drink your milkshake.")
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To: bonfire

So much of the crap on this thread is just that — crap. It’s impossible to respond to it all.

Utah does not turn a blind eye to polygamy. They have prosecuted members of one clan for various abuse charges. One of the reasons the FLDS went to Texas is because Utah was cracking down in various ways. But Utah won’t do mass raids, tearing up families like Texas is doing.

What Utah has done is prosecute the leader of the FLDS as an accomplice to rape, for sanctioning and performing a plural marriage of an underage girl to a 19 year old boy.

In addition, the state of Utah has placed a lot of their real property in a trusteeship, taking ownership away from the FLDS church.

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about, you just say whatever anti-Mormon garbage pops into your mind.


146 posted on 04/15/2008 2:29:01 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: najida

“the children were taken from another mother and assigned to them) which is SOP in this sect.”

How do you know this?? Were you a member once? Perhaps you’re a private investigator and have studied this cult extensively??


147 posted on 04/15/2008 2:29:30 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: lady lawyer
There is no contradiction. And just because not everyone is commanded to practice polygamy, doesn’t mean that it is sinful. That doesn’t follow either scripturally or logically.

Just because you can't SEE the contradictions between the indoctrination fog in your brain doesn't mean it isn't there. It is clearly there whether you're able to see it or not!

No one is commanded to practice polygamy - you are commanded to practice monogamy. What isn't logical or scriptural is your refusal to recognize this clear command in Deut. 17:17 "Neither shall he multiply wives to himself..." That is a direct command the same as Thou shalt NOT.....

The bigger q you need to address is if you believe in it so much why aren't YOU practicing it and sharing your husband with other women???? And don't give me its not legal BS....it has never been legal and it didn't stop Smith, or Young or anyone else in the late 19th century or today in the FLDS for that matter.

148 posted on 04/15/2008 2:29:48 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: greyfoxx39

Yep. Backed into that darn corner again!

And, hey, I watch BIG LOVE so I know ALL about “The Principle”! heh heh! :)


149 posted on 04/15/2008 2:29:58 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

That you Jeff? ;)


150 posted on 04/15/2008 2:30:13 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: Orange1998
I am sure they would have found the same at the Branch D site but they were burned alive. =====crickets=====

You're hearing crickets because this is not about the Branch Dividians. It's about the FLDS children.

151 posted on 04/15/2008 2:32:59 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: bonfire
They talk out of both sides of their mouths. My head is spinning.

I guess they figure they'll confuse us and we won't notice!

152 posted on 04/15/2008 2:34:22 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: najida
No. My name is Rolf.

I think it's shameful when people start assuming the worst about people based on rumours.

153 posted on 04/15/2008 2:34:37 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: conservativegramma

The biggest issue with polygamy is it goes against natural biology. Where the birth rate of both genders is equal. Even gay marriage evens out between the gays and lesbains (I’m not supporting it, just saying that at the end of the day, it appears that no one is left out in the rain without a date)

But polygamy is based on well,
in this particular group you had about 25 men averaging about 5 or so ‘wives’ each to = 139 wives.

That means, that 114 men/boys had to be removed from the group to give these men their excess spouses.

No one mentions that aspect. That it goes against balance AND it means for every 1 man having a marriage, about 5 won’t.

Now THAT goes against everything from the beginning of time.


154 posted on 04/15/2008 2:34:52 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY; najida; metmom
Furthermore, there can be NO justification for separating the children from their MOTHERS!!

Case histories likely show that young children are intimidated and afraid to tell the truth if either parent is present. These kids have been brainwashed from birth. They at least deserve the chance to be able to talk freely if they have been abused.

155 posted on 04/15/2008 2:36:14 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Do you think they’re just OK folks and everything they were doing (including massive welfare fraud) was just hunky dory-— and let me guess, you think polygamy is just fine and a 14 year old can be a real wife.

Do you?


156 posted on 04/15/2008 2:36:22 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: CAluvdubya

Yes,
it’s called the “Revenge for Waco” scenario.
Oy.


157 posted on 04/15/2008 2:37:09 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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To: conservativegramma

You’re in no position to accuse anyone else of being in a fog. The passage from Deuteronomy is not a commandment to monogamy. Read it in context. It also commands the king not to “multiply horses.” Does that mean that he could only own one horse, or does it mean that he shouldn’t go overboard, having hundreds of horses, or hundreds of wives.


158 posted on 04/15/2008 2:37:21 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: najida

Go back and read my first post on this thread. (page 1)


159 posted on 04/15/2008 2:38:18 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: Gator113

oh

no

;)


160 posted on 04/15/2008 2:39:08 PM PDT by najida (On FR- Everyman is Brad Pitt, Everywoman is Aunt Bea)
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