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Area Mayors Take Offense ("Upset that Barack Obama would characterize them as gun-toting zealots")
Times-Tribune ^ | 04/13/2008 | Jeremy G. Burton

Posted on 04/13/2008 1:28:33 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Small-town Pennsylvanians aren’t bitter; they’re optimists, steeped in family and tradition, and upset that Barack Obama would characterize them as gun-toting zealots.

That was the message Mayor Chris Doherty had at a news conference Saturday called to rebut comments recently made by Mr. Obama, D-Ill.

Mr. Doherty and supporters of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., including other mayors and union officials, rallied outside the county courthouse, saying Mr. Obama’s remarks reflect a disconnect.

“For a man who just spent six days crossing this state saying he was listening, obviously he wasn’t listening, because he missed us,” Mr. Doherty said.

At a fundraiser outside San Francisco, Mr. Obama said people in small-town Pennsylvania cling to guns, religion and anti-immigration sentiment because they are bitter about the Rust Belt economy.

Former Scranton Mayor Jim Connors said the remarks demean people here as hicks. Mr. Obama wants to transcend stereotypes, but then he stereotyped others, Mr. Connors said.

Standing in front of the John Mitchell statue, Mr. Doherty called hunting a tradition, borne not out of spite but culture and pride. The area’s churches, he said, were built on hopes of improving life and fostering families, not because the population here is downtrodden.

Mr. Doherty pointed to economic growth and investment. He said it’s necessary to combat that negative image.

“That’s not the truth,” he said.

At Mr. Doherty’s side were Mr. Connors and the mayors from Jessup, Taylor, Freeland and Moosic, along with New Hampshire state Sen. Lou D’Allesandro.

Taylor Mayor Richard Bowen said Mr. Obama’s comments hit home beyond Pennsylvania, and he predicts it will cost the senator voters who are on the fence.

Mr. Connors said what most offends him is that Mr. Obama said these things on the other side of the country behind closed doors. Mr. Connors bet Mr. Obama wouldn’t have made such remarks in Altoona.

Earlier in the day, Mr. Obama’s campaign held its own conference call. Mayor John Fetterman of Braddock said the underlying sentiment is sincere. Small-town Americans, he said, are frustrated and angry.

“Everyone acknowledges Mr. Obama may have slipped in different words if he could do it over again, but it’s not patronizing, it’s not condescending, it’s not elitism,” Mr. Fetterman said.

Efforts by the Times-Tribune to reach U.S. Sen Bob Casey Jr., who supports Mr. Obama, were not immediately successful Saturday.

Rosemary Boland, a Clinton delegate and president of the Scranton Federation of Teachers, said while she isn’t quite offended, she disagrees with Mr. Obama and finds the remarks immature.

“He should be very careful with his words and pick the right words to use,” she said.

Contact the writer: jburton@timesshamrock.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bitter; bittergate; blueturban; election2008; obama; pa2008; pennsylvania
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Obama is really saying if you had Government provided jobs and were fat and happy you would not care about guns and guns could easily be banned.


21 posted on 04/13/2008 5:56:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I have been taking note that when Obama speaks off the cuff, he uses the word , “typical” very often.
22 posted on 04/13/2008 6:00:08 AM PDT by mware (mware...killer of threads.)
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To: longtermmemmory
"Obama is really saying if you had Government provided jobs and were fat and happy you would not care about guns and guns could easily be banned."

Good point. The same would apply to religion in his thinking.

23 posted on 04/13/2008 6:01:17 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: LZ_Bayonet

ignored by “administration” seems code for “give the white folks free stuff and they will not care about god or guns.”

(see great society programs)

zero sum Obama, the rubes need to trade one shiny object for a fat belly.


24 posted on 04/13/2008 6:03:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
...but now I genuinely find myself wondering if this business might not just end up being Obama's own personal "Dean scream" or "Muskie's tears" moment, after all. ;)

It has now been four days and the media is quiet. There is no backlash and the Sunday shows are all about how Obama can put Hillary away in Pennsylvania.

What is more amazing about Obama's statement is that he would make it before elitists in San Fransisco.

25 posted on 04/13/2008 6:14:00 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
and the media is quiet.

Google results for "Obama" + "bitter": 537,000.

Result even if only 1% of these were materially relevent: 5,370.

Some "quiet." ;)

26 posted on 04/13/2008 6:31:32 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
“He should be very careful with his words and pick the right words to use,” she said.

Oh no you don't. Not this time. The time for the right words has pasted. After three pieces of evidence to Obama's bias, I am convinced that he believes exactly what he said about small town Americans.

27 posted on 04/13/2008 9:29:42 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller

pasted=past


28 posted on 04/13/2008 9:30:32 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Since the Michelle Malkin link gave the red X...


29 posted on 04/13/2008 9:41:37 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Mr. Connors said what most offends him is that Mr. Obama said these things on the other side of the country behind closed doors. Mr. Connors bet Mr. Obama wouldn’t have made such remarks in Altoona.

Excellent point, Barry was addressing his fellow hate America comrades, and he was tickling their ears with the bigoted stereotypes that they wanted to hear. Barry never expected for an audio tape of his FULL remarks to be published on the internet by "citizen journalist" just as he never expected that Uncle Jeremiah would go against him by telling someone in his church to go ahead and sell Whitey the damn tapes and show them some of my real preaching.

30 posted on 04/13/2008 9:41:43 AM PDT by Biblebelter (Barry, let your Uncle Jeremiah speak publicly, so he can set the record straight himself.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Operation Chaos continues!


31 posted on 04/13/2008 9:41:54 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The only thing keeping Hillary in this race, is AFSCaME, who were in the bag for her early, and Dumbama just played right into their hands.
32 posted on 04/13/2008 9:54:07 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Iron My Shirt!)
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To: rogue yam

Rush has nothing to do with it...his own liberal friends realized he is not what they thought he was and outed him.


33 posted on 04/13/2008 9:54:36 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Gondring

Thanks! ;)


34 posted on 04/13/2008 11:53:07 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SPOT ON!!! This is bigger than a Steeler draft pick discussion (in other words HUGH!!! and even SERIES!!)

All kidding aside, it is a very, very big offensive hurtful story here...I think some (even out here in the bitter hinterlands) were ‘falling’ for BHO. But we are just racist hicks...Hillary (in local media) is coming across as the school marm smacking down the bully Obama. FWIW, Hillary and her team in SW PA are handling it very well...I am waiting for Rendell (or Bill) to say something equally offensive...but Hill must have them bunkered somewhere in Potter County...


35 posted on 04/13/2008 12:07:18 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: ethics

and BC, Jr is just so gosh darn eloquent...can’t wait til he opines on BHO’s gaffe.


36 posted on 04/13/2008 12:10:50 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: Cobra64

It’s “Magic Negro”.


37 posted on 04/13/2008 12:11:05 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Obama’s organizing methods let him down in this case. According to the Alinsky method, he was supposed to play up the concerns of the group that he is trying to organize. Play up the concerns until he rubs them raw, sympathize with them and then offer them hope by telling them that they can help themselves by rebelling against the established government and demanding that the government respond to their concerns. It’s all sort of like what Jesse Jackson does.

Obama just messed up.


38 posted on 04/13/2008 12:11:44 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hillary is defending small towns, worship, and guns in PA so seemlessly I fully expect a media release Monday morning that she is now an NRA lifer.


39 posted on 04/13/2008 12:14:11 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (PaMom--a broken glass DINO til 4/23/08)
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To: mad_as_he$$
It’s “Magic Negro”.

Got it. I like it.

40 posted on 04/13/2008 12:16:58 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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