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Sad. As a "cradle Catholic" who was educated by the Sisters of Mercy & the Christian Brothers for 12 years, I have some fond memories of a Catholic education & experience.

Semper Fi, Kelly

1 posted on 04/12/2008 6:53:15 AM PDT by kellynla
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2 posted on 04/12/2008 6:53:52 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

If the children were being led to chant prayers to Allah they would be receiving taxpayer funding.


3 posted on 04/12/2008 6:54:46 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: kellynla

I was educated by the Sisters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul, the Notre Dame nuns. Highly educated, very motivated ladies, and sadly, very few left. My advice to any trying to have an intellectual argument with any of the good sisters is that they better know their facts.


4 posted on 04/12/2008 6:58:16 AM PDT by ops33
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“Taking taxpayer money means sacrificing the core element of Catholic schools: their faith. The schools won’t be able to have prayers, and will have to strip religion from the curriculum. That has prompted petitions from parents who want the schools to stay as they are.”

What’s the problem with forming private religious schools? No money in it? It won’t serve the poor? Isn’t this another example of letting market forces work and keeping government (tax dollars) out of the way?

I attended a private Lutheran School as part of my education as a kid. I had a full scholarship to a private Lutheran college. What’s the scoop? Are Lutheran schools failing at the same rate? Is the failure of these Catholic schools a result from all of the money bilked from the Catholics over bogus “repressed memory” sex abuse lawsuits?

Just askin’...


5 posted on 04/12/2008 7:03:04 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: kellynla

This will only embolden the NEA and their minions to keep vouchers off the table. And why not? Their strategerie seems to be working. Sadly.


6 posted on 04/12/2008 7:04:39 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: kellynla

Here in Djakarta, the Catholic schools are bursting. First tier schools like Santa Ursula, Santa Teresia, and Tarakanita, which my daughters attended, are very difficult to qualify for.
In many of the second tier Catholic schools, a large percentage of the students are RIPpers, as their parents recognise the superiority of these schools. They go through the motions of Catholic religious courses, but the schools wisely make the muzzie parents pay through the nose ........


9 posted on 04/12/2008 7:21:55 AM PDT by punchamullah
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To: kellynla

“”We lose the kids. They can’t afford it. And then as the school gets smaller, you have to raise the tuition to pay the costs and it’s a vicious cycle,” said Sister Dale McDonald, the association’s director of public policy and education research.”

That’s part of the problem.
Another big problem was switching from staffs consisting of teaching nuns, volunteers, or laypeople willing to work for less - to certified teachers with competitive salaries and benefits.

In our area I found the tension between the “social justice/working wage” folks and the realities of skyrocketing costs to catholic schools very interesting.

If there was an offender to the principle of the “working wage” - it was the catholic school system paying low salaries.
They raised salaries and benefits - which made catholic education a luxury for the wealthy.


11 posted on 04/12/2008 7:26:36 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: kellynla

I had a similar 12 year experience with Sisters of the Holy Ghost for elementary school and Dominican sisters and priests in high school. The academics were outstanding, but it was equally about building character and people skills such as learning obedience to rules, honesty and integrity, self discipline, delayed gratification, respect for others, empathy, etc. Of course all of this was reinforced at home. All in all it’s a type of education we don’t see a lot of anymore.


12 posted on 04/12/2008 7:27:52 AM PDT by McLynnan
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My guess is there’s more to this than the economy. The economy was horrible in the 70’s, they didn’t close then.

Also, I know lots of kids who aren’t Catholic who actually go to Catholic school. Inner city kids whose parents have money problems won’t send them to the P.S’s, and they can’t afford an expensive private school. Voila, lots of minority non Catholics in Catholic school.

My guess is, it’s the rise of school alternatives. You can homeschool, and there are charter schools, online, etc. Florida has some nice online virtual schools. The neighborhood catholic school is no longer the last bastion of people who won’t PS.


18 posted on 04/12/2008 7:50:55 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: kellynla

A brand new “state of the art” Catholic High School is being built in my neighborhood; I may send all my children there if it is built in time. (Right now they attend a K-8 Lutheran school.)

There is great demand for Catholic schools in the suburbs, where most children live these days. There are fewer children in the cities, where these schools are now closing.

I attended Catholic school in the 1980s, switched to a public high school, and high school was so much easier! The Catholic education was definitely more challenging and just better.


22 posted on 04/12/2008 8:12:11 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: kellynla

Cradle Catholic here too

St. Joseph Nuns for us

Memories of Catholic school will remain in our hearts forever. It was the BEST!!!


23 posted on 04/12/2008 8:13:30 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: kellynla
I was taught by the Sisters of St. Joseph in Philadelphia in the 1960’s.
We had 1200+ students squeezed into 20 classrooms, so each class averaged about 60 students. No teacher's aide, either.

We managed to get an excellent education, and there were very few disciplinary problems. I also got a strong grounding in the Catholic faith which has stayed with me to this day.

Where did all those good sisters go?

25 posted on 04/12/2008 8:22:19 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: kellynla

Cradle Catholic here too

St. Joseph Nuns for us

Memories of Catholic school will remain in our hearts forever. It was the BEST!!!


28 posted on 04/12/2008 8:27:57 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: kellynla

The left is happy.


35 posted on 04/12/2008 8:58:43 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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Sad. I only attended a Catholic school for 3 years (6th through 8th grade), but - although it was tough - it was the best education experience I've ever had. Returning to a public high school (in the 1970s) was a major culture shock... stuff went on there that the nuns would never tolerate...
48 posted on 04/12/2008 10:21:50 AM PDT by nutmeg (Obama supporters: Drink the Kool-Aid? Yes we can!)
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Please help me here, I am trying to find the article about the 70 year old nun suspended for threatening to bust a kid in the mouth.
The parents,I think were suing.(In my time all three would have busted me in the mouth.) Can't find it in search. Thanks
51 posted on 04/12/2008 10:32:31 AM PDT by OeOeO (maybe I didn't come over on the Mayflower, but I got here as soon as I could" Anton Cermak)
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To: kellynla

School Sisters of Notre Dame.


69 posted on 04/12/2008 5:44:55 PM PDT by TwoSue
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