Posted on 04/12/2008 6:53:15 AM PDT by kellynla
But you keep up the anti-Catholic smears and see how you fair when the time comes to meet your Maker. LOL
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Fair should have been fare.
One problem is that the salaries and benefits are not competitive with public schools. Around here, an experienced public school teacher makes more than $55k. The teachers in some of the less successful Catholic schools were making less than half and the quality of the faculty suffered.
Might I ask where you taught by the Brothers of De LaSalle?
St. Louis for me.
Regards
alfa6 :>}
Christian Brothers College in Memphis
I stand corrected.
I looked at going to college there once upon a wee time.
Thanks a lot and have a great day.
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
The only nun in the school my daughter used to attend was the PE teacher!
It’s unfortunate that Emperor Constantine’s institution of hierarchical syncretists has traditionally chosen to deal with sexually dysfunctional individuals by recruiting them into the clergy.
Hopefully your daughter’s PE teacher was not one of the afflicted.
A BIG part of the problem is the insistence on "certified" teachers (aka graduates of "colleges of education". My wife and I are both Catholics (her cradle, me convert last year) and PhD chemists, and are due to retire soon. We would LOVE to teach at a Catholic school, probably just for benefits (health insurance). We could certainly handle chemistry and general science, and with a little mentoring, physics and math. But neither of us is "certified" (of course, if we taught at university, we WOULD be qualfied to "teach the teachers").
I'm sure we're not the only ones out there.
Unfortunately, I believe she was. Her “habit” consisted of a Hard Rock Cafe T-shirt and cargo shorts.
The only thing the Catholic church is guilty of is believing the current crop of psychologists when they said that people of homosexual orientation were not mentally ill, and, as a result, considering them capable of living up to their vows of chastity and celibacy.
As a result of the above the Church STOPPED the close scrutiny to screen homosexuals out of seminaries. You can rest assured that that policy is no longer in place, and strict scrutiny is being re-instituted.
I suggest you take your Catholic-bashing elsewhere.
Some think I hate the church, not true... But I hate those who ALLOWED the CC to slide off to such a low levels. Those WHO KNEW but looked the other way DID more harm to the church that I ever could. More sadly even and still puzzling to me today is the fact that after the full extend of the abuses were finally known by the press, was the meek response of the church to the whole thing. I would have thought the CC would have come "swinging" to clean up and punish the CRIMINALS. Instead, even today, the message is mixed and definitely no clear on what the position of the church is in all this. I cant help to wonder if the homosexual / pedophile - liberal nuns of the sixties, already filtered into the higher ranks of the church and thus the muted response. I wonder...
Oh yes, to the original point, I think this little and recent episode in the CC might have something to do with its lack of popularity? Credibility? well, something like that.
You can often find emergency credentialling programs (I don’t know what state you live in) and, in addition, Catholic schools, like most private schools, often have different requirements. Check into it! I’m sure there’s something you could do.
Also, I read a truly brilliant idea that somebody here posted a couple of days ago: the Catholic Church should simply guarantee a free, solid Catholic education to every child in the country. Where would the money come from? Well, as soon as it got out that kids were getting a good education, good moral values and even, yes, mandatory instruction in the Catholic faith (which they don’t have to believe, but which they do have to sit through), the money would come rolling in. And it would be from private sources, not from the government. Furthermore, it would probably single-handedly result in the revival of religious teaching orders, male and female, and perhaps the development of new forms to accomodate older or married people. And this would also keep the price down, since one of the difficulties now is that Catholic schools have to pay competitive salaries, which was not the case in earlier days.
One of the problems with religious orders is not only did they abandon their habits and community life, but they abandoned their work, somehow deciding that teaching was beneath them. The fact that many young women (and men) had gone into these orders because they wanted to teach, rather than be social workers, “pastoral assistants,” or whatever, is one of the reasons a lot of them left when the orders quit teaching.
Curiously, the sexual abuse in public schools goes virtually unnoticed by the press or by writers, partly because there’s no money in it.
A study in New York City found that something like 1/3 of the substitute teachers and about 20% of the permanent teachers had been charged with and in fact usually convicted of sexual crimes against children. Because of union pressure, many of these teachers were kept on the job while charges were pending (and it was the child victims who were sent elsewhere!) or, if it was really too hot to handle or more than the first offense, they were sent to warm a desk at 110 Livingstone Street, Bd of Ed headquarters, where they received their full salary. Even if they were dismissed, it was often with all or part of their salary for a number of years.
Furthermore, the city never bothered to examine the background of applicants, many of whom had recent records for sexual abuse of minors.
New York was certainly not the only city, and I have read that the national statistics for sexual abuse in public schools or charter schools run by small political or religious groups are higher than those for Catholic schools. But again, lawyers and writers go where the deep pockets are.
Essentially, the Catholic bishops behaved no differently from the public school administrators, who relied on “counseling” at full pay, intimidation of the victims, etc. to deal with the problem. That is a terrible failing, and it is probably also true that there are a couple of lavender bishops out there who have protected gay priests and are still doing so. It’s not excusable, but you have to wonder why the press is not paying a little more attention to the (male and female) child molesters who seem to plague the public school system, particularly since far more children are in public school and hence at risk. If they were really concerned about the kids, they would look at the public schools.
What city are you in? We are getting a new elementary school, but it is two parish schools merging. My kids are upset as they are changing the name. Unfortunately, they are building an Islamic “information” building right next to the church and the old school.
But, But... Are you COMPARING the two?... Are you comparing, therefore expecting equivalent results from pratically an immoral PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM and its 'administrators' with the *** HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH ****?... Inverntors and sole administrators of "morality" and "sainthood" for millions of souls in the entire universe? :)...
That is like talking about a "pinto" (car) and a Rolls Royce in the same breath. Kidding but I hope you see my point :)
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