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To: Dr. Marten
China is living in both the 21st and 19th Century. It's intense nationaliztic behavior is that of a 19th Century imperialist power, in many ways it's practicing “catching up” of what the other world powers went thru in the 19th Century - complete with sense of manifested destiny, chauvinistic nationalism, and deploying military power as a blunt political and expansionist, empire building tool.

Except the world is not in the 19th Century anymore.

Much of China's schism with the west is - from Chinese perspective, that China is not doing anything that the western (and Japanese) imperial power didn't themselves do back in the 18th and 19th century - in fact, with some of that western imperialism applied towards China. So China tend to reject western objection to Chinese policies as hypocritical in a historical context.

But, we don't live in the 19th Century anymore. And what China is doing in its exercise of modern imperialism is clearly not acceptable in the 21st Century.

The trick is how do we get China off it's 19th Century based mindset and join the 21st Century?

11 posted on 04/11/2008 5:51:24 PM PDT by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Republican Party Reptile
The trick is how do we get China off it's 19th Century based mindset and join the 21st Century?

War. Doesn't have to be war to the knife. They just need to lose one major war with the USA like every other fascist world power has experienced.

38 posted on 04/11/2008 9:58:12 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: Republican Party Reptile
“The trick is how do we get China off it's 19th Century based mindset and join the 21st Century? “

Capitalism, consumerism, and availability of information to the average person in China.

Oh and as the countries standard of living for the average Chinese citizen rises the desire for more information will rise too.

They have their steps and troubles to go through, but if the curve up for the average citizen rises quickly it will create the conditions their government will not be able to stifle or control.

Capitalism, consumerism, and availability to open information will change China.

39 posted on 04/11/2008 10:00:24 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Republican Party Reptile
What point is is it to have a 21st Century China that's authoritarian aka State-Capitalist? As long as the communists have control, the gun barrels point towards the people, not the other way around.
43 posted on 04/12/2008 12:02:32 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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