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McCain advisers tied to foreign lobbying (1 paid $720 thou by Mexico to advance amnesty for aliens)
Washington Times ^ | 04/11/2008 | Jim McElhatton and Jerry Seper

Posted on 04/11/2008 10:08:35 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Two of Sen. John McCain's top advisers and fundraisers are among several Republican and Democratic presidential campaign officials whose lobbying firms have been paid more than $15 million by foreign governments since 2005.

The firms of McCain senior adviser Charlie Black, who until recently was the chairman of Washington-based BKSH & Associates, and campaign co-chairman Thomas G. Loeffler, who heads the Loeffler Group in San Antonio, received millions of dollars lobbying the White House, Congress and others as agents of nearly a dozen foreign clients in recent years.

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c Rob Allyn, head of the Dallas-based Allyn & Co., a public relations, advertising and political media firm, who was paid $720,000 by the Mexican government in 2006 to polish its image and call for a guest worker program for millions of Mexican nationals illegally in the United States.

The lobbying efforts came at a time Congress and the White House were debating comprehensive immigration-reform legislation, which was defeated in June. Then-President Vicente Fox was an outspoken critic of the proposed legislation.

Mr. Black and Mr. Loeffler also are listed by Mr. McCain's campaign Web site as bundlers, expected to collect thousands of dollars in donations from several sources to bypass federal election laws limiting individual contributors to a $2,300 maximum donation.

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; aliens; amnesty; charlieblack; ctils; elections2008; electjohnmccain; immigrantlist; immigration; johnmccain; lobbying; loeffler; mccain; mexico; roballyn
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You need to be voting for Obama. He doesn’t accept campaign money from lobbyists and corporations.


81 posted on 04/11/2008 12:59:48 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
You need to be voting for Obama.

Awww. That must have sounded so sweet in the original spanish.

82 posted on 04/11/2008 1:01:00 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: wideawake
It's not a line. It's a raffle. You can wait patiently your whole life and your number will never come up.

So what??? It's a privelege not a right. If you violate the traffic laws, should you suffer no penalty because you personally felt they were stupid?

If you want to be Mother Theresa, do it on your own dime and don't try to give away everyone else's American citizenship for nothing.

83 posted on 04/11/2008 1:03:01 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: E. Cartman

“Coming to America is a privelege, not a right. Let them wait in line like everyone else. “

In spite of his absurd overall proposals, wideawake is making one very valid point. 95% of those Mexicans (and many from all nations) will NEVER be able to come here legally because of the present 1 - 1.5 million cap on how many are allowed in under various programs. And that’s as it should be. The deliberate negligence of our politicians in DC has led to so little immigration law enforcement that some now act as if anyone who wants to come to the US and stay should be allowed to do so.

But unless we have open borders, 95% of those all over the world who’d like to come here will never be able to. The line (or number of places in that line) is pretty short in every nation, and only a fraction of those who get in line will ever get to the front of the line. Just reality.

So, the constant statements of “go home and get in line and come back legally” are empty statements. Only a fraction will ever be able to do that.

And that really seems to be bugging wideawake.


84 posted on 04/11/2008 1:04:44 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
Having immigration laws, and enforcing those laws, is NOT a police state.

Of course not.

However, denying anyone access to the US who has a clean record, who wants to work and who has a job offer is not the way America works.

Free countries do not close their doors to peaceful and well-intentioned people.

85 posted on 04/11/2008 1:12:31 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Kent the loser says, “deal faster McCain”.


86 posted on 04/11/2008 1:12:56 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: E. Cartman
Control of one's borders is the first order of sovereignity

Are you saying that the US is not currently a sovereign nation?

87 posted on 04/11/2008 1:15:15 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Ben Ficklin
*yawn*


88 posted on 04/11/2008 1:17:12 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: E. Cartman
If you violate the traffic laws, should you suffer no penalty because you personally felt they were stupid?

A better analogy might be: if you fine people $10 for stealing $100, have you disincentivized theft?

don't try to give away everyone else's American citizenship for nothing

You are aware that there is no fixed number of US citizenships, and that you don't have to wait for one citizen to die before you give citizenship to a new person, right?

89 posted on 04/11/2008 1:18:20 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

“However, denying anyone access to the US who has a clean record, who wants to work and who has a job offer is not the way America works.

Free countries do not close their doors to peaceful and well-intentioned people.”

Can you possibly be serious??? There are two to three BILLION people on this earth who are poor, and meet your criteria of those we should not close our doors to.

A big chunk of those would love to come here. As E. Cartman told you, you really need to get over this Mother Theresa impulse, or become a foreign missionary and do your work outside the US. Or maybe what you really want is to see US wages and living standards for all but the elites driven down to third world levels.

You’re talking complete nonsense.


90 posted on 04/11/2008 1:18:51 PM PDT by Will88
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Allyn was also hired by Home Depot and was public relations man for George W. Bush and Vincente Fox.


92 posted on 04/11/2008 1:20:00 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Whew, the McCain apologisti are in full battle cry on this one!

So lemme get this straight. Hill and Bill’s minions take $ from the Chicoms and that’s a terrible, awful, very bad thing, but McCain’s minions take money from Mexico and it’s okay because we need to fix our laws? Am I reading this right?

How ‘bout we conservatives have some freakin’ integrity and realize that it’s just as bad when a guy with an “R” behind his name does it as when the evil Dems do it. The stench of situational ethics and moral relativism is stinkin’ up the forum lately.


93 posted on 04/11/2008 1:20:10 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet (He is risen!)
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To: tumblindice

Excellent comment.


94 posted on 04/11/2008 1:20:29 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: SaveTheChief

“I am now declaring the winner in the 2008 US Presidential race. The winner is.... Mexico.”

I think you nailed it.


95 posted on 04/11/2008 1:21:40 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB
Allyn was also hired by Home Depot and was public relations man for George W. Bush and Vincente Fox.

... a.k.a., the "S" in McCain's freakish and ongoing S&M relationship with Mexico. ;)

96 posted on 04/11/2008 1:22:35 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: LadyNavyVet
So lemme get this straight. Hill and Bill’s minions take $ from the Chicoms and that’s a terrible, awful, very bad thing, but McCain’s minions take money from Mexico and it’s okay because we need to fix our laws? Am I reading this right?

Almost prefect. Just remember to do it in a high, squeaky voice, next time. ;)

97 posted on 04/11/2008 1:23:45 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: Will88
There are two to three BILLION people on this earth who are poor, and meet your criteria

There are not two to three billion job offers on the table in the US. Hence, these people do not meet my criteria.

98 posted on 04/11/2008 1:24:18 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

“The fact is that America’s immigration laws are broken. They need to be revised.”

No they don’t need ‘revised’. They need enforced!


99 posted on 04/11/2008 1:26:35 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Liz

Great summary. We already have too many people. Catering to illegal aliens who consume our limited resources and will not improve our gene pool is perverted. They invade our country and then demand special perks, that we learn their language, that we pay for their bills. Just because Mexico want to get rid of its misfits and surplus population and perform ethnic cleansing, does not me we have to take responsibility for them.


100 posted on 04/11/2008 1:29:00 PM PDT by Dante3
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