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McCain advisers tied to foreign lobbying (1 paid $720 thou by Mexico to advance amnesty for aliens)
Washington Times ^ | 04/11/2008 | Jim McElhatton and Jerry Seper

Posted on 04/11/2008 10:08:35 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Two of Sen. John McCain's top advisers and fundraisers are among several Republican and Democratic presidential campaign officials whose lobbying firms have been paid more than $15 million by foreign governments since 2005.

The firms of McCain senior adviser Charlie Black, who until recently was the chairman of Washington-based BKSH & Associates, and campaign co-chairman Thomas G. Loeffler, who heads the Loeffler Group in San Antonio, received millions of dollars lobbying the White House, Congress and others as agents of nearly a dozen foreign clients in recent years.

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c Rob Allyn, head of the Dallas-based Allyn & Co., a public relations, advertising and political media firm, who was paid $720,000 by the Mexican government in 2006 to polish its image and call for a guest worker program for millions of Mexican nationals illegally in the United States.

The lobbying efforts came at a time Congress and the White House were debating comprehensive immigration-reform legislation, which was defeated in June. Then-President Vicente Fox was an outspoken critic of the proposed legislation.

Mr. Black and Mr. Loeffler also are listed by Mr. McCain's campaign Web site as bundlers, expected to collect thousands of dollars in donations from several sources to bypass federal election laws limiting individual contributors to a $2,300 maximum donation.

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; 2008; aliens; amnesty; charlieblack; ctils; elections2008; electjohnmccain; immigrantlist; immigration; johnmccain; lobbying; loeffler; mccain; mexico; roballyn
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I thought that McCain won the nomination.

Who do you hate most, McCain or those who voted for him?

101 posted on 04/11/2008 1:29:01 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: AuntB
No they don’t need ‘revised’. They need enforced!

Wrong.

Any sane immigration law would encourage the immigration of young and productive people who would contribute to the economy and pay taxes for 40+ years.

Our current immigration law has a byzantine quota system that discourages young people and focuses on "family reunification" rigmarole that brings granny from Karachi or Warsaw to the USA just in time for her to start collecting Social Security.

The system is broken and the laws are stupid.

I don't want to enforce a broken law Ted Kennedy wrote 40 years ago.

I want a smart law now.

102 posted on 04/11/2008 1:33:07 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Who do you hate most, McCain or those who voted for him?

A perfect manifestation of your manifest confusion (or, at least, the chiefest aspect of same, at any rate). I don't "hate" McCain.

I have a good many postings, adequately addressing just what it is, specifically, I object to re: John McCain as a politcian; a "conservative": and a candidate. Genuinely interested? Get cracking.

103 posted on 04/11/2008 1:35:16 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

You can say that but it is not believable.


105 posted on 04/11/2008 1:42:23 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: wideawake
The fact remains that deporting every illegal immigrant in this country would be an... human rights disaster

We're not wanting to execute or imprison them.

We want then to go back to their homes, families, friends, schools, Churches, jobs, et al to help make their countries great.

106 posted on 04/11/2008 1:43:28 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Proud Latina Republican; Dante3
WHAT DANTE PLAINLY SAID: " [...] Catering to illegal aliens [...]

WHAT YOU CHANGED IT INTO: "If you think Latinos are going anywhere [...]"

Why did you intentionally make that (dishonest) switch?

107 posted on 04/11/2008 1:45:22 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Too much reading, eh?

You can say that but it is not believable.

Not even remotely my problem, peanut.

108 posted on 04/11/2008 1:46:25 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: wideawake

“There are not two to three billion job offers on the table in the US. Hence, these people do not meet my criteria. “

You’re correct on the job offer criteria, but you’re still talking nonsense. There are billions who would like to come here, and for too many years we’ve allowed business interestes to all but dictate our immigration policies.

And you’re totally wrong that denying entry to well intentioned people is “not the American way.” Immigration quotas were kept at 200,000 and below from the 1920s until 1965, and they remained below 500,000 until the GHWB administration when they were raised to around 800,000, and as business interests have gained more and more influence, the totals have exceeded one million and up to one and a-half million.

It is definitely the American to way cut back on immigration when that is deemed desirable.

The high immigration levels at present have existed for only about 20 of the past 90 years, since about 1989.


109 posted on 04/11/2008 1:49:32 PM PDT by Will88
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To: wideawake

“I want a smart law now. “

You’re mixing immigration and illegal immigration. Enforcement of our existing laws will work for II. Yes, our legal immigration system is FUBAR.

Let’s hear it.

What is your ‘smart law’? How many will you allow legally to enter the country each year? Do you plan on making them all ‘citizens’ since you said we need them here for 40 years?


110 posted on 04/11/2008 1:50:32 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: wideawake
The fact remains that deporting every illegal immigrant in this country would be an economic and human rights disaster

Liberals should love the idea of sending the illegals home. A few of the liberal causes:

Twenty million illegals going home would help us to greatly to reduce the dreaded urban sprawl.

Just think how happy the Gorebots would be with the CO2 reduction of twenty million less people.

Many liberals, Ted Turner for one, are very much in favor of limiting our population, sending twenty million folks back to their homes is right in line with that thinking.

111 posted on 04/11/2008 1:54:25 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Proud Latina Republican

Sounds like you might be delusional or did you have one too many? I was referring to illegal aliens - and no, this is not their country. The day might well come sooner than most expect when people have had enough and start shipping them off. Not hard to do through various means. By illegal aliens I refer to everyone illegally - blond Russian Mafia the MS13 who terrorize our communities, etc.


112 posted on 04/11/2008 1:58:27 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I’m shocked, SHOCKED, that gambling is going on in the casino.

It would shock me to learn that folks in politics are NOT takiang money.


113 posted on 04/11/2008 1:59:22 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Taxpaying Slave Class Xenophobe)
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To: Proud Latina Republican; Dante3

You said, “If you think Latinos are going anywhere you’re delusional. This is just as much our country as yours.”

Whoa? You must be looking for a fight, because the poster you addressed never mentioned ‘Latinos’! He did talk about illegal aliens....do you identify with them? Is this their country as much as it is mine? NO ONE has suggested that the Latinos go anywhere, and for you to suggest it is wrong and baiting at best and racist at it’s core.
Now, if you’re an illegal alien who has broken my nations laws, you can go to Mexico, Iran, Ireland, to hell for all I care or wherever you came from.

Too bad you think this situation is about ‘Latinos’....you sound like McCain. It isn’t the fault of any US citizen, me, Dante3, or any of us that MOST illegal aliens who are breaking our laws and our stealing our identities and communities happen to be LATINO’s. I suggest you take that problem up with them.

This is what Dante’ posted and you twisted out of shape to fit your agenda.

“Great summary. We already have too many people. Catering to illegal aliens who consume our limited resources and will not improve our gene pool is perverted. They invade our country and then demand special perks, that we learn their language, that we pay for their bills. Just because Mexico want to get rid of its misfits and surplus population and perform ethnic cleansing, does not me we have to take responsibility for them.”


114 posted on 04/11/2008 2:00:01 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Proud Latina Republican

Now that you’re here you are a gringo, deal with it.


115 posted on 04/11/2008 2:00:47 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Proud Latina Republican

“If you think Latinos are going anywhere you’re delusional. This is just as much our country as yours.”

Taking a look at the countries which really are Latino, it’s easy to understand why you’d want to claim the USA, even though it is in no way a Latino country.


116 posted on 04/11/2008 2:01:07 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Slump Tester
I did not know that his brain went mushy. He's always seemed to me to be the smartest guy in the room. And I'll never forget his contract with America--he did great on that one on conception and execution.

Maybe we all should write in Jim Robinson.

117 posted on 04/11/2008 2:02:22 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Thanks for making that so clear. I though there was only one person left on this forum who says such nonsense. McCain must be inspiring his minions.

See post 114


118 posted on 04/11/2008 2:03:07 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: wideawake

Let me guess. You are with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce which is America’s greatest advocate for open borders and modern day slavery?


119 posted on 04/11/2008 2:03:40 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

This makes me want to vomit. All over John McCain.


120 posted on 04/11/2008 2:05:19 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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