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New Mexico commission orders $6,000 fine for Christian beliefs
AFA ^ | April 11, 2008 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 04/11/2008 8:26:38 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 04/11/2008 8:26:39 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 04/11/2008 8:27:20 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Its really time for Americans to BACK their government.

This P.C. crap has GOT to be stopped while we still have a Country and a culture left to defend.


3 posted on 04/11/2008 8:28:31 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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If I were the photographers, I would take this joke of a ruling all the way to the Supreme Court, if need be. This is NOT Canada!


4 posted on 04/11/2008 8:30:21 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: NYer

Under what authority does this commission have to levy fines towards an individual or private business? It has no authority equal to a court or a state regulatory agency.


5 posted on 04/11/2008 8:31:45 AM PDT by PRO 1 (POX on posters who's political bent causes them to refuse to be confused by the FACTS!!!!!!)
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I keep wating for the silent majority to lash back and instead may get President Obama.


6 posted on 04/11/2008 8:32:54 AM PDT by AU72
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violation of conscience more than just “biblical belief” it makes it broader and allows all people to object on the issue of sexual behavior.


7 posted on 04/11/2008 8:33:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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All this under worthless Senor Governor Bill Richardson's watch.
8 posted on 04/11/2008 8:35:38 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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This is an absolute travesty of social injustice. As a merchant, I reserve the right to refuse service to ANYONE and I don’t need a reason.
The fact that the state has empowered a ‘commission’ to adjudicate issues and assess fines, even if only for ‘costs’ is patently ridiculous (but widely done, I know).
The appeal should be interesting.


9 posted on 04/11/2008 8:41:47 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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“Lorence said Americans do not surrender their freedoms of speech or religion just because they choose to open a business.”

Suppose you say your religion prevents you from serving blacks...perhaps you are a hold-over of the old Mormon religion, with its belief that black skin is a punishment for sin.

If you refuse to serve blacks, you WILL be prosecuted and convicted. Same with drugs, etc - your religious beliefs CAN conflict with anti-discrimination laws and result in punishment.


10 posted on 04/11/2008 8:44:57 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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“I reserve the right to refuse service to ANYONE and I don’t need a reason.”

I don’t suggest you go to court with that approach. What you do in your home may be your business, as long as it doesn’t involve flush toilets or light bulbs. However, what you do in a public business is NOT just your business.

Anti-discrimination laws would have no teeth if your approach prevailed.


11 posted on 04/11/2008 8:47:52 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Absolutely!


12 posted on 04/11/2008 8:48:03 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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I would appeal or burn my business and move out of state. I’d never pay it.


13 posted on 04/11/2008 8:48:51 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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I have never heard of them, but it’s probably some very stupid commission the King set up before he grew a beard. From the same guy who gave a special award to a molester too...


14 posted on 04/11/2008 8:58:53 AM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative (The RINOs think that they have won but we shall see who has the last laugh in '08...)
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On Wednesday, the Commission found the Christian couple guilty of discrimination under state anti-discrimination laws and ordered them to pay more than $6,000 in costs.

This is a blatant violation of First Amendment rights and a Federal lawsuit should be filed against the Commission.

15 posted on 04/11/2008 9:03:52 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I do a lot of photography work. I clearly state I DO NOT DO WEDDINGS. Of any kind. Boy, things are getting weird in this country. How long is He going to tarry?


16 posted on 04/11/2008 9:06:08 AM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
If I were the photographers...

Jon and Elaine are fairly young (in their 20's) and were just married in the last few years. They are a little overwhelmed with the whole situation (which was a set up to establish a precedence).

17 posted on 04/11/2008 9:07:29 AM PDT by pby
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Yep. This is one of the onerous legacies of the federal government’s 1960s Civil Rights “you-will-serve-black customers-or-serve-federal-time” laws.


18 posted on 04/11/2008 9:07:38 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Polybius

Do you have First Amendment rights to discriminate in a public business?


19 posted on 04/11/2008 9:08:53 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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Suppose you say your religion prevents you from serving blacks...perhaps you are a hold-over of the old Mormon religion, with its belief that black skin is a punishment for sin.

Homosexuality is a behavior, not a race.

20 posted on 04/11/2008 9:11:13 AM PDT by Hacksaw (I support the San Fran tiger.)
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