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What Went Wrong with the Clinton Campaign ("What we are talking about here is plain old arrogance")
Real Clear Politics ^ | 04/10/2008 | Jay Cost

Posted on 04/10/2008 2:42:49 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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There is no doubt that it has been a poorly run campaign.

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As you well know, Obama has a huge lead in pledged delegates. But you might not know that nearly 90% of this lead comes from caucuses. Obama has netted 147 delegates via the caucuses alone.

It need not have been this way. Caucuses have exceedingly low turnout - and so victory depends upon organizational prowess. Clinton was poorly organized in the caucus states, and it cost her. For every caucus state she has lost, Clinton could have found enough supporters in those states to at least tied Obama. This is the case even in states where Obama would win a broad-based primary. In Kansas, for instance, Obama had about 18,000 more caucus supporters than Clinton. Grant that Kansas is a state Obama would win in a primary. Shouldn't Clinton have been able to find 18,000 more people? She received less than 10,000 votes for goodness sake!

Even more amazingly, Obama crushed her in states where Clinton probably would have won or barely lost a primary. Obama netted 15 delegates on her in Colorado. He netted 6 in Maine. I'd put the odds of Clinton winning primaries in those states at no less than 50-50. Clinton won the Texas primary outright, but Obama walked away with 9 more delegates in the caucus. Obama won 26 more delegates than Clinton in Washington state. One week later, he beat Clinton in the Washington state beauty contest by just 4 points. Clinton won a clear plurality of voters in the Nevada entrance poll, but Obama walked away with a net of one delegate.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; arrogance; cankles; election2008; hillaryclinton; humaisheartbroken; oldcrusty; vincefostersrevenge
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

This is an excellent article especially making the point Clinton really could have at least tied in most of those caucus states.

I wonder what the underlying dynamic is. I suspect arrogance is only a partial explanation.

I wonder if Bill really didn’t want to be upstaged by Hillary and failed to come forward when he could have to push for stronger organizations in the caucus states.

And I wonder about the sniper lie. Up until that point, Hillary had a credible scenario for a come-from-behind victory: a strong finish in the late primaries, pulling even or slightly ahead in the popular vote, convincing the super-d’s that she had the momentum, the best shot at winning in November, and the most recent blessing of the dem rank and file.

But the lie killed all that. Killed it dead. What was behind that lie? Arrogance? I’m not so sure. Is it possible that on some deep dark psychological level she was playing out the role of “victim wife” and giving Bill what he secretly wants: to never have his wife upstage him in the WH?

Fanciful? Probably. Psychological-poop? Most likely.

But that sniper-lie was so weird, so bizarre, so career-shattering and so unnecessary that you have to wonder why. And the simple word “arrogance” doesn’t seem enough to answer the question.


21 posted on 04/10/2008 5:08:29 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

She's the only automaton from Chuck E. Cheese's to make it big. "Billybob" (seen below) never made it, but was seen by fans as "more life-like".


22 posted on 04/10/2008 5:16:55 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: samtheman
But that sniper-lie was so weird, so bizarre, so career-shattering and so unnecessary that you have to wonder why. And the simple word “arrogance” doesn’t seem enough to answer the question.

Many years ago, my grandfather once told me -- I know, I know, people begin lies with those words all the time; but he really, truly, no foolin' DID tell me this! -- "Never attribute to malice what can be adequately ascribed to stupidity."

That truism -- forty years after the fact -- has never, ever once failed me. ;)

23 posted on 04/10/2008 5:18:13 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: SIDENET

I just spewed a mouthful of bottled water ALL OVER MY MONITOR, you @#$%! ROTFLMAO!!! ;)


24 posted on 04/10/2008 5:19:27 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Your grandfather sounds like a wise man.


25 posted on 04/10/2008 5:19:55 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Miss Didi

I see sir elton is wearing a large cross. Is it because he is so religious or is it used to mock Christianity? My bet is this is an “in your face” fashion statement. I bet he also wears it while being buggered.


26 posted on 04/10/2008 5:22:08 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: VastRWCon

“If you weren’t my daughter... “

More like, remember all those nights when you were 13 and I would sneak into your room when your mother was asleep...


27 posted on 04/10/2008 5:24:16 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: VastRWCon
If you weren't my daughter...

If you were only my daughter...


28 posted on 04/10/2008 5:24:28 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Above all, it's Hillary's fault. She's the candidate. She sets the tone.

How dare you? Hillary is the victim.

It will be me. lol

29 posted on 04/10/2008 5:24:37 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: samtheman
Your grandfather sounds like a wise man.

Well, he did end up raising me... so: you gotta deduct points. ;)

30 posted on 04/10/2008 5:24:45 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I just spewed a mouthful of bottled water ALL OVER MY MONITOR, you @#$%! ROTFLMAO!!! ;)

LOL. I looked at that picture and just knew that I had seen those eyes before. My first thought was of the creepy old automatons at Chuck's.

31 posted on 04/10/2008 5:25:31 AM PDT by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: SIDENET

"Close my eyes and think of Huma... close my eyes and think of Huma... close my eyes and think of Huma..."

32 posted on 04/10/2008 5:29:26 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
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To: TomGuy
The total populations of the states Clinton has won are significantly greater than the populations of the states Obama has.

Clinton is right when she claims her wins are bigger than Obama’s.

That is the beauty of the whole thing.

God does indeed have a sense of humor.

33 posted on 04/10/2008 5:30:09 AM PDT by mware (mware...killer of threads.)
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To: Miss Didi
Damn, Elton is the only one dressed in anything even close to being feminine.
34 posted on 04/10/2008 5:31:37 AM PDT by mware (mware...killer of threads.)
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To: samtheman
hillary’s utterly stupid lie about the sniper fire tells me that she lives in a dream world of her own imagination and thinks if she says it, it is true. The fact that she has gotten away with so many lies in the past has reinforced this.

I wonder what she will do when reality settles in and she sees she has lost the nomination? I hope here is a video camera pointed at her so we can go to Youtube and see it.

35 posted on 04/10/2008 5:38:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: TomGuy

He has over 700,000 more votes than her.


36 posted on 04/10/2008 5:39:11 AM PDT by jveritas (Rush Zibo (Limbaugh) is Hillary Clinton Useful Idiot)
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To: Miss Didi

I wonder what would happen if we all got into the same bed. Hillary doesn't like men. Elton doesn't like women. And me--heck, everybody knows about me!"

37 posted on 04/10/2008 6:13:15 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

"Hillary, your fadeout doesn't look too good for The Clinton Legacy."

"Drop dead, Bill."

38 posted on 04/10/2008 6:39:56 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: mware

Bill and Hill walk on stage for the Elton John concert.

I am confused. I thought foreign persons couldn’t contribute to USA campaigns?
How is Elton John able to do this???

I already know that the other foreign money coming into the Clinton campaign is being money-laundered thru the Clinton Library...


39 posted on 04/10/2008 7:36:32 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: TomGuy

If the major population cities are going to run the USA, then you have lost the reason why the framers of our Constitution put in the Electoral College.

The people in the “little cities” have something to say about who is their president, also.


40 posted on 04/10/2008 7:38:15 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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