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To: rightazrain
1. The girl who started this was calling on a cell phone she’d found, and talking very low, frightened to death she would be caught.

So, you have heard a recording of the calls? Link to your info?

2. The people throughout this cult are so inter-related that many have the same last names.

Yep, they are called families.

3. Joni Holm, believe me, is not a cultist living on the compound or she would have no power to help children leave the cult. She is, through her efforts, familiar with the people, and is helping to clarify a tragic, confused situation.

So, if she knows so much about "The girl's husband is in his late 30s, is related to Dale Barlow, shares his surname and has a similar sounding first name, Holm said. " why did she not know where the guy in his 30's is? Why did she take five days to tell the LEO's the guy they named isn’t there and the guy they want is really in his 30's? And again, how's about a link to your inside info?

4. Some of these kids don’t even know who their own fathers are.

So, we are talking about what, about 1/4 of Detroit? Chicago?

And how many don't know? Two? Ten? All of them? Source please?

You failed to get the facts in this article right (Holms), and yet you criticize the people who failed to get a name correct when whispered over the phone by a terrified 16 year-old girl?

I did not "fail" to do anything because what you are saying is not in the article. Where did you get your info? What makes you believe your speculations are "facts?"

And you know what? I really don't care where you got it, even though I believe you are just speculating and their are no sources at all for what you are purporting to be factual. It has nothing to do with what I am talking about and has no bearing on the validity of the warrant.

Which is what I am talking about.

44 posted on 04/09/2008 10:53:54 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

“You failed to get the facts in this article right (Holms), and yet you criticize the people who failed to get a name correct when whispered over the phone by a terrified 16 year-old girl?”

You reached the wrong conclusion about Holms if you knew anything about how this cult operates. No way would she be able to help these kids get out if she were living in the compound under their power. This is an informed deduction on my part based on my studies of Mormon polygamous sects.

As far as not knowing who your father is, it’s easy to understand the confusion when some of these men have 50+ children. Would that situation describe your traditional family?

As for everything I’ve said, I invite you to do the research and show me my errors. Google is good. It’s not my fault if you’ve not been keeping up with the news coverage on this story.


72 posted on 04/09/2008 11:40:06 AM PDT by rightazrain (Stop Obama/Clinton!)
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To: TLI

I am also amazed that a search warrant was apparently issued on the basis of a phone call. Maybe I missed a posted copy of the affidavit or some other detail but so far it’s just a phone call.


122 posted on 04/09/2008 12:31:58 PM PDT by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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To: TLI; Domandred; Vaquero

It seems that a lot of the “facts” spewed on this subject comes from that great knower of all evil things, NANCY GRACE. By the way she still has no idea what a muzzle loader is. You are right in your question the proper handling of the Constitution & Ammendments. I don’t concede any of them!!


148 posted on 04/09/2008 12:44:49 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (My Tee shirt for 2009-2012:" I voted FRED don't you wish you did")
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