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Westinghouse strikes deal to build US nuclear power plants [the first such projects in 30 years....]
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Posted on 04/08/2008 5:04:40 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Westinghouse strikes deal to build US nuclear power plants Apr 8 07:52 PM US/Eastern

Westinghouse Electric, a unit of the Japanese Toshiba Corp., said Tuesday it had struck a deal with Georgia Power to build two nuclear power plants in the southern United States, the first such projects in 30 years.

The two Westinghouse AP1000 power plants will be located at a site near Augusta, Georgia which already had two existing nuclear reactors.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; georgia; nuclear; nuclearpower; toshiba; westinghouse
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To: Petronski; Who is John Galt?

Google: toshiba submarines silent

It will take you to a Time mag article from 1987, when the story broke.

Toshiba and their Norwegian partner sold the Soviets the technology for computerized lathes that could produce the super silent propellers for the Russian subs from 1981-1984.

We knew something was up when the Soviet subs strated running much quieter. They had 265 attack subs to our 96 subs, and this almost caused a “sub gap”.

Remember in context,this is still at the height of the Cold War. Reagan would visit Moscow in 1988;the Berlin Wall came down in 1989; and the Soviet union broke up in 1991.

Thank God for Ronald Reagan.


81 posted on 04/08/2008 6:13:34 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: blueheron2
From Post #74:

"Toshiba must pay $380 mil. for stealing trade secrets ... In the mid 80s they sold submarine stealth technology to the Soviets..."

If you want to promote that company, knock yourself out. It's a free republic...

82 posted on 04/08/2008 6:13:57 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Thank you for the link.


83 posted on 04/08/2008 6:14:06 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Thank you.


84 posted on 04/08/2008 6:15:16 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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To: exit82

Thank you.


85 posted on 04/08/2008 6:15:53 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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To: rednesss

What are some practical design limits for scale size? I always figured that every home by the late 50s should have had one - made by Heathkit, that would provide a welcome heat source for steam boiler and electricity generation. Every 20 years or so, you send in some boxtops and they would send out some new rods or something.


86 posted on 04/08/2008 6:16:40 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: been_lurking; devolve; PhilDragoo; All
The number of deaths related to nuclear plant accidents in the U.S. is exactly ZERO!

Three people were killed in Idaho in 1961 from a steam explosion in reactor SL-1 during start up.

No deaths at Three Mile Island meltdown but what has been the follow up on cancer and related medical problems?

The core of an experimental reactor near Detroit, Mich., melted partially when a sodium cooling system failed.

1953
Love Canal, nr. Niagara Falls, N.Y.: was destroyed by waste from chemical plants. By the 1990s, the town had been cleaned up enough for families to begin moving back to the area.

Yes - the accidents are few thankgoodness, but they do occur.

87 posted on 04/08/2008 6:17:38 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: sam_paine

Thank you, I’ll check it out.


88 posted on 04/08/2008 6:18:13 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch
"Our water from the river is already being taken over by San Antonio north of us and nuke plants use HUGE amounts of water."

Most of which goes right back to the river, only a few degrees warmer.

"Do you want one in your backyard? I did a Google a few months ago and there are many more accidents at these plants than most people are aware of!"

I'd LOVE to have one in my backyard. Most of the "accidents" are hyped-up by anti-nuke propagandists posing as reporters.

89 posted on 04/08/2008 6:18:36 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Who is John Galt?

You’re comment makes no sense.


90 posted on 04/08/2008 6:18:48 PM PDT by blueheron2 (Half a loaf is better than none.)
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To: exit82

Once I saw CNC I figured the equipment had the knowhow built-in.

The sale makes me angry even to this minute.

Yet I ask myself, how many management-types from Toshiba 1987 are still there at the top?

How long does should such a thing go on?


91 posted on 04/08/2008 6:19:18 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: potlatch

In my backyard? No.

But a few miles down the road (so I don’t have to look at it)? Hell yeah.


92 posted on 04/08/2008 6:21:04 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: CGTRWK

I believe they are looking into the discharged water. Naturally they will say it has been thoroughly ‘cleaned’.

Yes, I realize we need these plants but still want them to be isolated.


93 posted on 04/08/2008 6:21:48 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Petronski
The number stuck in my head is 1983, but I doubt my memory and was trying to confirm.

You've got me - I'm still friends with my ex-boss, but I'm too tired to do a search. In my opinion, Toshiba still sucks. Anyone who wants to suggest that they were unjustly convicted of collaborating with the (then) enemy, have at it. I still won't buy a Toshiba anything...

94 posted on 04/08/2008 6:22:41 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Lol, I wish all those wanting to have one in their backyard could get their wish.


95 posted on 04/08/2008 6:24:23 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Who is John Galt?
I'm not fine with what Toshiba done and they were punished at the time. Frankly, I'd like to see individuals rather than companies punished, since companies aren't human. But that was 20 years ago and continuing to boycott Toshiba for what a 51% owned subsidiary did 20 years ago after they were already punished seems a bit silly to me. Should they hang the sailors that didn't cover up that propeller or are you going to boycott Microsoft, too?
96 posted on 04/08/2008 6:25:29 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: blueheron2

As I said, knock yourself out. It’s a free republic...


97 posted on 04/08/2008 6:25:36 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ( "He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike." - John Locke, 1690)
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To: potlatch

From Hillsdales Imprimus:

“On the other hand, a reactor can “melt down.” This is what happened at Three Mile Island. A valve stuck open and a series of mistakes led the operators to think the core was overflowing when it was actually short of cooling water. They further drained the core and about a third of the core melted from the excess heat. But did this result in a nuclear catastrophe? Hardly. The public was disconcerted because no one was sure what was happening. But in the end the melted fuel stayed within the reactor vessel. Critics had predicted a “China syndrome” where the molten core would melt through the steel vessel, then through the concrete containment structure, then down into the earth where it would hit groundwater, causing a steam explosion that would spray radioactive material across a huge area. In fact, the only radioactive debris was a puff of steam that emitted the same radiation as a single chest x-ray. Three Mile Island was an industrial accident. It bankrupted the utility, but no one was injured.

This of course was not the case in Chernobyl, where the Soviet designers didn’t even bother building a concrete containment structure around the reactor vessel. Then in 1986, two teams of operators became involved in a tussle over use of the reactor and ended up overheating the core, which set fire to the carbon moderator that facilitates the chain reaction. (American reactors don’t use carbon moderators.) The result was a four-day fire that spewed radioactive debris around the world. More fallout fell on Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, from Chernobyl than from Three Mile Island. With proper construction such a thing could never happen.

Another objection to nuclear power is the supposed waste it produces. But this is a mischaracterization. A spent fuel rod is 95 percent U-238. This is the same material we can find in a shovel full of dirt from our back yards. Of the remaining five percent, most is useful, but small amounts should probably be placed in a repository such as Yucca Mountain. The useful parts—uranium-235 and plutonium (a manmade element produced from U-238)—can be recycled as fuel. In fact, we are currently recycling plutonium from Russian nuclear missiles. Of the 20 percent of our power that comes from nuclear sources, half is produced from recycled Russian bombs. Many of the remaining isotopes are useful in industry or radiological medicine—now used in 40 percent of all medical procedures. It is only cesium-137 and strontium-90, which have half-lives of 28 and 30 years, respectively, that need to be stored in protective areas.”


98 posted on 04/08/2008 6:25:49 PM PDT by blueheron2 (Half a loaf is better than none.)
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To: truthguy
If California doesn't like it-tough. Let them have blackouts. Or let them build more Nuclear power plants!

Ain't gonna happen. But I'd be happy if they built 'em in my backyard here in Arizona!

99 posted on 04/08/2008 6:25:55 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: potlatch
"Three people were killed in Idaho in 1961 from a steam explosion in reactor SL-1 during start up."

SL-1 was not a commercial power reactor. It was a research prototype being run by the military using badly trained technicians. The correct statement is that nobody has been killed in the USA by a COMMERCIAL nuclear reactor.

"No deaths at Three Mile Island meltdown but what has been the follow up on cancer and related medical problems?"

Hugely extensive, and done for years. Next question.

"The core of an experimental reactor near Detroit, Mich., melted partially when a sodium cooling system failed."

Again--NOT a commercial reactor. Prototype reactors are different beasts.

"1953 Love Canal, nr. Niagara Falls, N.Y.: was destroyed by waste from chemical plants. By the 1990s, the town had been cleaned up enough for families to begin moving back to the area.

Irrelevant.

"Yes - the accidents are few thankgoodness, but they do occur."

So you'd rather live next door to a coal-fired power plant?? Here's a clue--coal fired plants emit hundreds of times more RADIOACTIVITY than nuclear power plants, and that's not counting the emissions of mercury, arsenic, etc., etc..

100 posted on 04/08/2008 6:26:47 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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