Posted on 04/08/2008 10:03:02 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
Last week, Russia's lower house of parliament passed a resolution insisting that Josef Stalin's man-made 1932-33 famine -- called the Holodomor in Ukrainian -- wasn't genocide.
Virtually no one, including the Russians, disputes that the Soviet government was involved in the deliberate forced starving of millions of people. But the Russian resolution indignantly insists: "There is no historical proof that the famine was organized along ethnic lines." It notes that victims included "different peoples and nationalities living largely in agricultural areas" of the Soviet Union.
Translation: We didn't kill millions of farmers and their families because they were Ukrainians, we killed millions of Ukrainians because they were farmers.
And that's all it takes to be acquitted of genocide. ...
In general, the Soviets and the Red Chinese elude the genocide charge -- and hence the status of ultimate villains -- despite having murdered scores of millions of people in the 20th century, in large part because their victims stood in the way of progress. Kulaks, or independent farmers, opposed Stalin's plan for collectivization, and so they were murdered for that "greater good." ...
Racial genocide is often rationalized as a form of progress by those responsible. Under the Holodomor, Ukrainian culture was systematically erased by the Russian Soviets, who saw it as inferior or expendable. No doubt the Sudanese janjaweed in Darfur and the Chinese People's Liberation Army in Tibet believe that they are "modernizers" too.
Or consider the ultimate racially motivated genocide, the Holocaust.... the Final Solution... was perceived by the social engineers and young economists overseeing it as a "modernizing project that would transform society." ...
Of course, the climate of anti-Semitism made the Holocaust possible, but so did Enlightenment bias, which holds that almost anything can be justified in the name of progress.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Yes, Stalin didn’t commit Genocide.
He committed Democide because the Kulaks etc didn’t share his ideology.
The left needs to understand that murdering people just because they’re not big on collectivisation of their assets is still murder.
The New York Times said so.
Communism as part of the Enlightenment? I don’t think so.
It’s funny that the ultimate communist insult is to call someone a parasite. Yet, everything about communism is parasitic, including it’s ideas.
People disparage the power of words and ideas. But the damage caused by Marx should put that to rest. The notion that somebody can be helped in spite of themselves has its limits - limits not recognized by communists, socialists or liberals. Hence, piles of skulls in the Ukraine, in Cambodia, in China, in Germany, and on and on and on
Oh, thank heaven. For a minute I thought it was totally ethnic cleansing instead of cold, calculated murder. I can't tell you how much better that statement makes me feel. (s/off)
What a hell-bound bunch of creeps!
They’re are correct. It was not genocide, but it was mass murder on a scale rarely seen in human history. The acutal grain stocks were very good but they were sequestered in state warehouses and storage yards that were ringed with fencing and barbed wire. Many of the storage yards had mountains of grain that were 4 and 5 stories high.
People died of starvation within sight of those mountains of grain. Kruschev, grandpa Krushcev, was one of the people who did this to the Ukrainian people. He was not a kinder gentler Premier, but a stone cold killer.
The famine was created to bring independent farmers to the collective but I must make another point that is rarely made by analysts of this era.
Stalin’s method of management was by terror and killing. There was no other method. He simply starved and killed people in order to keep the rest of them in line. It is hard for Americans to understand as we have had no experience with it.
Whereas the anti-Christian genocide being supporting by NATO in Kosovo is a good thing?
What sort of poltroon would support that?
No true Patriot, that’s for sure!
So now you accuse the USA of genocide and compare the USA to Stalinist Russia? What a sick revolting communist you are! Go to Russia, commie! Go where your kind belongs!
LOL! As if!
Maybe you should go to Kosovo so you can support your beloved Jihadists directly? LOL!
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